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How old is your UPS? The batteries might need replacing. Don't expect more than 5-10 minutes though as the consumer products are only designed for safe shutdown, not long periods of run time.

Of course a larger UPS will provide more run time because it has higher capacity batteries, but they can get fairly expensive.

And knackered basically means tired smile.gif

I purchased it last sunday... smile.gif well that's exactly what i want just an ample time of properly shutting down my computer and not for long use... smile.gif I would be happy even if it is just 2 minutes... as long i could shutdown my computer properly while gaming... smile.gif

if you don't mind, what ups capacity could you advice with my rig's system including my future plans so i could shutdown my computer properly WHILE GAMING, as listed below:

processor: intel core i5-4670k
cpu cooler: NZXT kraken x60
motherboard: MSi z87-g45gaming
gpu: sapphire r9-270x toxic 2gb 256bit
RAM: G-skill ripjawsX 8gb (4gbx2) 1600 cl9
HDD: 1tb western digital caviar 7200rpm
PSU: corsair RM650, 650w 80+gold fully modular
casing: NZXT phantom 530
dvd: lite-on dvd muliformat writer
KB+M: cm storm devastator
Monitor: ASUS MX239h

future plans:

1. overclocking my i5-4670k up to 4.5ghz (desired clock) to 4.8ghz (if I can tongue.gif)
2. purchasing fans and peripherals such as:
a. speaker+subwoofer (logitech surround sound z506 5.1)
b. NZXT HUE RGB LED controller
c. Bitfenix FAN and LED controller switch
d. (3) 120mm led fans (bitfenix spectre pro)
(2) 140mm led fans (bitfenix spectre pro)
(3) 200mm led fanz (NZXT FZ200)
Edited by marcski07 - 4/7/14 at 7:31pm
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I purchased it last sunday... smile.gif well that's exactly what i want just an ample time of properly shutting down my computer and not for long use... smile.gif I would be happy even if it is just 2 minutes... as long i could shutdown my computer properly... smile.gif

if you don't mind, what ups capacity could you advice with my rig's system including my future plans as listed below:

processor: intel core i5-4670k
cpu cooler: NZXT kraken x60
motherboard: MSi z87-g45gaming
gpu: sapphire r9-270x toxic 2gb 256bit
RAM: G-skill ripjawsX 8gb (4gbx2) 1600 cl9
HDD: 1tb western digital caviar 7200rpm
PSU: corsair RM650, 650w 80+gold fully modular
casing: NZXT phantom 530
dvd: lite-on dvd muliformat writer
KB+M: cm storm devastator
Monitor: ASUS MX239h

future plans:

1. overclocking my i5-4670k up to 4.5ghz (desired clock) to 4.8ghz (if I can tongue.gif)
2. purchasing fans and peripherals such as:
a. speaker+subwoofer (logitech surround sound z506 5.1)
b. NZXT HUE RGB LED controller
c. Bitfenix FAN and LED controller switch
d. (3) 120mm led fans (bitfenix spectre pro)
(2) 140mm led fans (bitfenix spectre pro)
(3) 200mm led fanz (NZXT FZ200)

During heavy load on the system it is certainly possible that the UPS cannot handle it. I can't imagine you would be exceeding 480W during load with your system (and if you were the UPS should be beeping at you for being overloaded) but the immense power draw will run the batteries down very quickly.

You're probably going to need something that is pure sine-wave for maximum efficiency and around 1300VA/780W like the CP1300EPFCLCD: http://www.cpsww.com.au/products/ups_systems/pfc_sinewave/cp1300epfclcd.htm

Could you post the model number of the UPS you have currently so I can do some more digging?
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During heavy load on the system it is certainly possible that the UPS cannot handle it. I can't imagine you would be exceeding 480W during load with your system (and if you were the UPS should be beeping at you for being overloaded) but the immense power draw will run the batteries down very quickly.

You're probably going to need something that is pure sine-wave for maximum efficiency and around 1300VA/780W like the CP1300EPFCLCD: http://www.cpsww.com.au/products/ups_systems/pfc_sinewave/cp1300epfclcd.htm

Could you post the model number of the UPS you have currently so I can do some more digging?

so meaning to say, my ups has no problem? it is the immense power of my rig that's why the battery drains that fast? on idle, there was no problem, i could shutdown my pc, and my ups is beeping for every 10 seconds meaning my battery wasn't running low as indicated in manual... but when I did stressed my pc, like playing games in high setting, setting my fans and AOI water cooling on extreme and GPU boost (msi feature) the back-up time just gave me for about 2-5 seconds and the she dies... smh. sad....
Edited by marcski07 - 4/7/14 at 7:48pm
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so meaning to say, my ups has no problem? it is the immense power of my rig that's why the battery drains that fast? on idle, there was no problem, i cud shutdown my pc, and my ups is beeping for every 10 seconds meaning my battery wasn't running low as indicated in manual... but when I did stressed my pc, like playing games in high setting, setting my fans and AOI water cooling on extreme and GPU boost (msi feature) the back-up time just gave me for about 2-5 seconds and the she dies... smh. sad....

The UPS is probably okay, yes but it can drain quickly under load especially if its only a smaller UPS and even if you aren't over the advertised wattage.

If you can post the model of it I can have a look at the specification of the batteries it contains, but likely you really need a higher wattage UPS if you want to shutdown quickly while you are gaming.
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The UPS is probably okay, yes but it can drain quickly under load especially if its only a smaller UPS and even if you aren't over the advertised wattage.

If you can post the model of it I can have a look at the specification of the batteries it contains, but likely you really need a higher wattage UPS if you want to shutdown quickly while you are gaming.


here's the model... http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/index.php?do=proinfo&id=85

thanks, finally I was enlightened... maybe i will get 1000va/600w UPS that would give me enough time right? smile.gif
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here's the model... http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/index.php?do=proinfo&id=85

thanks, finally I was enlightened... maybe i will get 1000va/600w UPS that would give me enough time right? smile.gif

Yeah, I mean at 480W its not going to have a high capacity battery.

Its only 9Ah battery, and at higher current draw it runs down faster.

600W... well it theoretically may give you higher run time. But I can't guarantee that for you.
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Yeah, I mean at 480W its not going to have a high capacity battery.

Its only 9Ah battery, and at higher current draw it runs down faster.

600W... well it theoretically may give you higher run time. But I can't guarantee that for you.

thanks for everything, i'll just RMA it, if it fails also... got some range of ups at my trusted retailer, but don't know if they are good quality.. FSP and CYBERPOWER have good reviews next to overly expensive APC.. but my budget for 1500va of FSP & CYBERPOWER makes my wallet cry.... so i'm crossing my fingers to 1000va FSP... if not, i'll find 1500va on cheaper price like SECURE and BOSLINE.. got reviews on that two? they are way cheaper, the secure 1500va and bosline 1200va is less than US $90.00
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thanks for everything, i'll just RMA it, if it fails also... got some range of ups at my trusted retailer, but don't know if they are good quality.. FSP and CYBERPOWER have good reviews next to overly expensive APC.. but my budget for 1500va of FSP & CYBERPOWER makes my wallet cry.... so i'm crossing my fingers to 1000va FSP... if not, i'll find 1500va on cheaper price like SECURE and BOSLINE.. got reviews on that two? they are way cheaper, the secure 1500va and bosline 1200va is less than US $90.00

Keep in mind that you do get what you pay for smile.gif
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Keep in mind that you do get what you pay for smile.gif

lol, i found out it was only 800va/300w... so that explains why my back up battery fails... i checked my receipt and it was indicated 300w only... -_-

then i realized, 300w? that's too small and could probably overload the ups right? am i right?
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lol, i found out it was only 800va/300w... so that explains why my back up battery fails... i checked my receipt and it was indicated 300w only... -_-

then i realized, 300w? that's too small and could probably overload the ups right? am i right?

Potentially. And if it did, their first action is usually to just shut off right away. Better ones beep at you first though...
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