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Here are my PC specs: (not going to overclock)
for the cpu im going with the I5 3470
standard cooler (Zalman CNPSX5)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B75M-D3H
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SSD: Crucial 128G SSD Marvell M4

Now for the GPU. i cant decide.
First i wanted to go for the Gigabyte Windforce GTX670 OC.
then i saw some reviews about overclocking the 7950 and i saw that it actually passes the refference gtx670 performance wise, then i thought about the Sapphire 7970... ugh i honestly cant make up my mind.
Please dont send me amazon\ebay links, i dont live in the USA so im going to order from a store at my country, thanks in advance!

*if i missed any detail please let me know.*
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It depends on the resolution your display is at and how often you upgrade your video card.

If your resolution is higher than 1920x1200, get the 7950 or 7970.

If it is 1920x1200 or lower, and only upgrade every 3 or 4 years, get the 7950 or 7970.

If your resolution is 1920x1200 and you upgrade every year or two, then it doesn't matter which card you get out of what you listed. Just buy the cheapest of what you listed.
    
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It depends on the resolution your display is at and how often you upgrade your video card.
If your resolution is higher than 1920x1200, get the 7950 or 7970.
If it is 1920x1200 or lower, and only upgrade every 3 or 4 years, get the 670 or 680.
If your resolution is 1920x1200 and you upgrade every year or two, then it doesn't matter which card you get out of what you listed. Just buy the cheapest of what you listed.
here fixed that for you
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here fixed that for you

Except for the part where in that time frame the 2GB and 256-bit memory architecture of the 670 and 680 is going to choke. So no, you didn't fix that. Unreal Engine 4, CryEngine 3.0, and Frostbite 3.0 are already going to stress them, now add on what comes after that towards the end of that 4 year mark....

No, the reality of it is the 3GB an 384-Bit memory architecture of the 7000 series will have a much longer lifespan in relation to games coming down the pipe in the next 18 months to 36 months. As bandwidth requirements on the hardware are pushed up further.

Even in current generation titles, modded Skyrim as an example, we are already stressing a 2GB 256bit architecture.
    
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Except for the part where in that time frame the 2GB and 256-bit memory architecture of the 670 and 680 is going to choke. So no, you didn't fix that. Unreal Engine 4, CryEngine 3.0, and Frostbite 3.0 are already going to stress them, now add on what comes after that towards the end of that 4 year mark....
No, the reality of it is the 3GB an 384-Bit memory architecture of the 7000 series will have a much longer lifespan in relation to games coming down the pipe in the next 18 months to 36 months. As bandwidth requirements on the hardware are pushed up further.
Even in current generation titles, modded Skyrim as an example, we are already stressing a 2GB 256bit architecture.
most games these days utilize nvidias architecture better though. BF3, metro 2033, skyrim, starcraft, portal 2, batman all perform better with a 680 rather than 7970. now when the res gets above 1920X1200, the 7970 gets the advantage, but most people dont use those resolutions.
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most games these days utilize nvidias architecture better though. BF3, metro 2033, skyrim, starcraft, portal 2, batman all perform better with a 680 rather than 7970. now when the res gets above 1920X1200, the 7970 gets the advantage, but most people dont use those resolutions.

The resolution im going to be playing at is 1920x1080.
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It depends on the resolution your display is at and how often you upgrade your video card.
If your resolution is higher than 1920x1200, get the 7950 or 7970.
If it is 1920x1200 or lower, and only upgrade every 3 or 4 years, get the 7950 or 7970.
If your resolution is 1920x1200 and you upgrade every year or two, then it doesn't matter which card you get out of what you listed. Just buy the cheapest of what you listed.

I am going to play on a single 1920x1080 screen, so are you sure i should go with the 7950? i really want this card to last as much as possible but im also on a budget..
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The resolution im going to be playing at is 1920x1080.
I am going to play on a single 1920x1080 screen, so are you sure i should go with the 7950? i really want this card to last as much as possible but im also on a budget..

Yes, the 7950. The 3GB 384-bit architecture is going to last longer than what the current 600 series has.
    
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Nobody knows the longevity each card will last. Especially when it comes to AMD cards, Maybe on paper they have better specs. but who knows how the driver support will be when HD7000 cards get old?
Even though the GTX 600 series cards do not match HD7000 series on paper I would say they might live better than the HD7000 series if AMD dropped them down from support early.
Nvidia still provide support to GeForce 6800 series which are about 8 years old know, and they still do bug fixes for them as well as they support Windows 8. In comparision AMD felt the need to get rid of the 3 years old HD4000 series.
& HD4870X2 is still a decent card BTW perform close to GTX 480/ HD5870.
Edited by HeadlessKnight - 9/13/12 at 10:42pm
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Nobody knows the longevity each card will last. Especially when it comes to AMD cards, Maybe on paper they have better specs. but who knows how the driver support will be when HD7000 cards get old?
Even though the GTX 600 series cards do not match HD7000 series on paper I would say they might live better than the HD7000 series if AMD dropped them down from support early.
Nvidia still provide support to GeForce 6800 series which are about 8 years old know, and they still do bug fixes for them as well as they support Windows 8. In comparision AMD felt the need to get rid of the 3 years old HD4000 series.
& HD4870X2 is still a decent card BTW perform close to GTX 480/ HD5870.

Uh...

I am so sick of seeing the "Driver support" argument. It is old news, and not even relevant anymore.

As for the longevity issue, it isn't just about what is on paper, it is simple math.
    
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Uh...
I am so sick of seeing the "Driver support" argument. It is old news, and not even relevant anymore.
As for the longevity issue, it isn't just about what is on paper, it is simple math.

Simple math? you're guessing and speculating so this is your opinion and it is not a proven fact.
Yeah.. GTX 480 384-bit architecture will have longer life span than a 256-bit HD7870 architecture .
An 8800 GTX 384-bit architecture will have longer life span compared to 256-bit HD5850 architecture .
Bandwidth, Bus Width and paper specs are not everything but software and driver support is something very important.
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