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Reducing LOD with the double tape method

post #1 of 12
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I always thought the black tape method of covering part of the sensor hole was temporary because of the dust and fibers build-up on the sticky side of the tape. I also experimented a lot with the transparent tape method, which although lasts a lot longer, does not produce enough LOD reduction for me. I even tried foggy scotch tape, but that resulted in no tracking at all. So, I thought, why not combine both black tape and transparent tape for a VERY low LOD combo:
- transparent tape as the base layer
- black tape on top

Advantages:
+ no dust
+ VERY low LOD
+ no PCS reduction

With this method I can achieve under 1 CD LOD with the trusty old Spawn.

post #2 of 12
I can achieve "low lift off distance" on the spawn without even covering the sensor hole ^o^.

But alas it doesn't bother me anymore. (Switched to dominant hand for gaming)
post #3 of 12
I just use one piece of clear tape and permanent marker. Which gives me under 1 CD with my pad.

Took me 10 seconds to figure that out after I plugged in my new mouse.
post #4 of 12
What do you mean with that Skylit ? Are you a lefty that always played right ?
Cause If you are, I would be interested if you perform better on the left hand after a while of getting used to it.
Cause I got the same "Problem" smile.gif
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by krokdylz View Post

What do you mean with that Skylit ? Are you a lefty that always played right ?
Cause If you are, I would be interested if you perform better on the left hand after a while of getting used to it.
Cause I got the same "Problem" smile.gif
Lefty gaming right-handed here, interested as well.

As for the tape mod, I've always wondered where do you place the opaque tape, should the opaque tape (black tape in this case) be covering the sensor lens partially? Or should it just be right behind the lens?
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
The opaque tape should be blocking part of the light beam. There's no reason to cover the sensor lens.
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by bkraptor View Post

I always thought the black tape method of covering part of the sensor hole was temporary because of the dust and fibers build-up on the sticky side of the tape. I also experimented a lot with the transparent tape method, which although lasts a lot longer, does not produce enough LOD reduction for me. I even tried foggy scotch tape, but that resulted in no tracking at all. So, I thought, why not combine both black tape and transparent tape for a VERY low LOD combo:
- transparent tape as the base layer
- black tape on top
Advantages:
+ no dust
+ VERY low LOD
+ no PCS reduction
With this method I can achieve under 1 CD LOD with the trusty old Spawn.

But the spawn has firmwares that will reduce the LOD so much that it might even not track on light coloured pads.
I will try the mod on my Saphira though.
The Black tape reduces LOD dramatically, still no need for the transparent one.
Edited by ZareliMan - 9/15/12 at 9:37am
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post #8 of 12
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The low LOD firmware (v32) is very pick about surface color and also reduces the maximum perfect control speed to around 2 m/s, while the 800 CPI step is interpolated. Only in the latest firmware batch (v60-v61) is the 800 CPI step a native one due to updated firmware from Avago for the ADNS 3090 sensor.

Using just the black tape with the hole left uncovered will result in cloth fibers accumulating on the sticky side of the tape over time, obstructing the sensor hole.

Currently I am using popups' method above - clear tape and masking the required portion with permanent marker, and it works just as well but with one less layer of tape.
Edited by bkraptor - 9/15/12 at 9:44am
post #9 of 12
Life is easier with just one piece of clear tape and permanent marker, huh?

*I just changed out my tape "fix" on the DA BE. I can't leave things well enough alone. I still used the clear tape and permanent marker but I placed the tape on the prism instead of the mouse body. The lift off is under one CD and it feels less than it did before!

It doesn't cover the lens at all. The down side is that it is hard to do without opening the mouse. If you don't open the mouse you have to use a needle to place the tape -- which is risky because you can scratch the lens if you are not careful.*

After doing this I feel (as I did prior to using tinted tape) that a tinted prism will lower the lift off without effecting the tracking like in the Zowie. A lower powered LED might work.
Edited by popups - 9/15/12 at 6:29pm
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by krokdylz View Post

What do you mean with that Skylit ? Are you a lefty that always played right ?
Cause If you are, I would be interested if you perform better on the left hand after a while of getting used to it.
Cause I got the same "Problem" smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ericlaw02 View Post

Lefty gaming right-handed here, interested as well.

Yes. My skill level was essentially capped. There wasn't anything more I could learn or practice as I felt my abilities couldn't go any further after a good 10 years of gaming. Did I have amazing movement skills? Sure, but my aim in slower games was quite poor. I could still pull around 60% RG in quake lol

After talking to a really good friend, I decided to make the switch and play on a left handed setup. (Bought a DA left which actually motivated me more since I couldn't just swap the mouse over to right hand. Note that this was a mouse I felt was previously too heavy. And ofc, I would have preferred a lower lift distance on the pad I was using at the time. Mouse itself felt great. I could actually "grip" comfortably.) It will seem quite impossible at first and down right humiliating thinking there's no possible way you can learn how to play like this, but after sticking to it for a good 4-5 months you'll find yourself in a position where wrist movements and dynamics of specific cm/360 settings are much easier and make sense. Oh and it's amazing how the brain works.. Everything you learned throughout gaming does stick!

I suppose the biggest issue one might have is keyboard layout and choosing a cluster that fits them. I would like to mention that my movement still quite bad compared to the stuff I could pull off playing on normal setup, but that will change with more practice. My dexterity is simply lower if you will.

tl;dr. I firmly believe that left handed gamers are being held back adapting to whats "normal". You may think you're good and all, and while I'm partial to believe it, you have the abilities to go even further with the right amount of practice.

PS: You're not the first person(s) to bring this up and I doubt you're the last ^^
Edited by Skylit - 9/15/12 at 5:06pm
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