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Yeah so you said your 4.5ghz 2500k wasnt good enough, i.e you need to overclock higher, which is fine but the 3570k wont go much over 4.5/4.6ghz without getting to stupidly high temperatures, unless your willing to take a chance by delidding your cpu.
Just thought id mention that.

Interesting info, thank you! When you say crazy high temps, are we talking like 80C+ on water?
    
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Yeah so you said your 4.5ghz 2500k wasnt good enough, i.e you need to overclock higher, which is fine but the 3570k wont go much over 4.5/4.6ghz without getting to stupidly high temperatures, unless your willing to take a chance by delidding your cpu.
Just thought id mention that.

Honestly, I would only push the 2500K to about 4.8GHz and no higher, maybe 5.0GHz if capable with water cooling in the future but thats it, and i could probably push the 3570K to about 4.6GHz no problem with the Hyper 212 EVO which would be similar to a 2500K @ ~4.9GHz.

The CPU Temp might be higher, but it would still be within the limits and it wouldnt heat up my room as much which is another issue i factor in.
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Interesting info, thank you! When you say crazy high temps, are we talking like 80C+ on water?

Not THAT crazy, From what i have seen, they are about +5c to +8c at similar clocks. The benchs that i was looking at had the 3570K running with higher limites, but at ~7c higher temps and benchd higher than the 2500K running at a higher overclock, but at lower cpu temps.

*PLUS just the fact its a gen3 i5 with all the extra addons and PCIe 3.0 for the future, Im happier with that.
I dont mind living with higher CPU temps and lower ambient temps IF its within the limits of the CPU than to have lower CPU temps and higher ambient temps like i would with the 2500K
Edited by drazah - 9/18/12 at 6:25pm
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Interesting info, thank you! When you say crazy high temps, are we talking like 80C+ on water?

Unfortunately yes. Taken from the IB overclock guide, notie how 12 out of 18 3570k submissions get to over 80C whilst stress testing. One guy gets up to 83C at 1.35v with a custom EK water loop.


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Honestly, I would only push the 2500K to about 4.8GHz and no higher, maybe 5.0GHz if capable with water cooling in the future but thats it, and i could probably push the 3570K to about 4.6GHz no problem with the Hyper 212 EVO which would be similar to a 2500K @ ~4.9GHz.
The CPU Temp might be higher, but it would still be within the limits and it wouldnt heat up my room as much which is another issue i factor in.

Yeah by all means try the 3570k out, its not a bad chip just unlucky that intel cheaped out by not soldering the IHS like they did on other cpus. I hope all goes well for you with the new cpu thumb.gif
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Unfortunately yes. Taken from the IB overclock guide, notie how 12 out of 18 3570k submissions get to over 80C whilst stress testing. One guy gets up to 83C at 1.35v with a custom EK water loop.

Yeah by all means try the 3570k out, its not a bad chip just unlucky that intel cheaped out by not soldering the IHS like they did on other cpus. I hope all goes well for you with the new cpu thumb.gif

Wow, thanks for the info. Seems my CPU choice wasnt thought out terribly well. Could i hit 4.1 Ghz stable on a H100 without breaking 60s/70sC at load?
    
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Wow, thanks for the info. Seems my CPU choice wasnt thought out terribly well. Could i hit 4.1 Ghz stable on a H100 without breaking 60s/70sC at load?

Easily id of thought, as far as I know with the ivy bridge cpus they only heat up to crazy levels past a certain voltage. Last I remember this voltage was 1.3v or thereabouts, id expect the majority of ivy bridge cpus to be able to do 4.5ghz at or under 1.3v so you should be fine honestly.
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Easily id of thought, as far as I know with the ivy bridge cpus they only heat up to crazy levels past a certain voltage. Last I remember this voltage was 1.3v or thereabouts, id expect the majority of ivy bridge cpus to be able to do 4.5ghz at or under 1.3v so you should be fine honestly.
Sweet, thanks. Once Corsair EVENTUALLY replaced my defective H100, ill start OCing biggrin.gif
    
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Easily id of thought, as far as I know with the ivy bridge cpus they only heat up to crazy levels past a certain voltage. Last I remember this voltage was 1.3v or thereabouts, id expect the majority of ivy bridge cpus to be able to do 4.5ghz at or under 1.3v so you should be fine honestly.

I really appreciate that bench post actually, gives me an idea of how i will be handling things. Personally, As i do like to overclock, I mostly overclock for stable performance and probably wont be going up to 4.9GHz on the 3570K and running at 12+ hour stress test just to see how high the temps go, Ill keep it lower but would probably only use the CPU to its max when im streaming so its temp wont be reaching that high i would assume, just as long as they are within the limits.

We will just have to wait and see how if my decision seems to be a good or bad one pertaining to how i will be using it, And i think thats where the real battle comes into play between the two CPUs.

The 2500K might be a better choice for one type of build and use while the 3570K might be a better choice for a different use.
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Should change to a different psu corsiar didn't do good on the CD series psu and low end psu
     
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I really appreciate that bench post actually, gives me an idea of how i will be handling things. Personally, As i do like to overclock, I mostly overclock for stable performance and probably wont be going up to 4.9GHz on the 3570K and running at 12+ hour stress test just to see how high the temps go, Ill keep it lower but would probably only use the CPU to its max when im streaming so its temp wont be reaching that high i would assume, just as long as they are within the limits.
We will just have to wait and see how if my decision seems to be a good or bad one pertaining to how i will be using it, And i think thats where the real battle comes into play between the two CPUs.
The 2500K might be a better choice for one type of build and use while the 3570K might be a better choice for a different use.

Good point, well said.
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Yes i did change the psu. I went with the Rosewill Capstone series 750M.
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