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Is the Asus P8Z77-V LE a step up from a Asus P8P67, 6+2 phase vs 12+2 phase is this important ?

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I OC'ed my 2500k to 4500ghz easy with my current rig in my details below. What I want is just to upgrade the mobo and keep my other components the same. Will I be able to OC P8Z77-V LE just as easy to 4500K and stable ? thanks
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Why would you even bother? You're essentially side grading from a budget P67 to a budget Z77, there's almost no difference at all.
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Well spending over 200$ for a mobo I think is to much and I won't do it. I've always bought in this range and always been happy with what I had. I used to buy prebuilt systems back in the day and I build my own now. Are you saying the P8P67 and the P8Z77-LE are garbage I don't believe that for a second. I also own a GTX550TI I guess thats budget too ? Guess what my system plays all the games I want. I don't have piles of money to throw around.Your not being helpful here.

The reason I want to go to this board cause it has a esata port on the back plus usb 3.0 native. Plus I'm sure it's still a little better than what I have. I just want to know if this board will OC good like my current board, and I'm not sure about this power phase stuff if it's important or not.
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Well spending over 200$ for a mobo I think is to much and I won't do it. I've always bought in this range and always been happy with what I had. I used to buy prebuilt systems back in the day and I build my own now. Are you saying the P8P67 and the P8Z77-LE are garbage I don't believe that for a second. I also own a GTX550TI I guess thats budget too ? Guess what my system plays all the games I want. I don't have piles of money to throw around.Your not being helpful here.

The reason I want to go to this board cause it has a esata port on the back plus usb 3.0 native. Plus I'm sure it's still a little better than what I have. I just want to know if this board will OC good like my current board, and I'm not sure about this power phase stuff if it's important or not.

The two boards are very very similar. I see absolutely zero reason to go from one low end board to another one. If you really want a new board, I would suggest a slightly higher end one, like the z77 ASRock Extreme4 (or Extreme6), or the Biostar TZ77XE3 or TZ77XE4. All are under $150 motherboards, and would actually be an upgrade.

The power phases are very similar between the two boards you are looking at. So roughly 4.5GHz-4.8GHz (depending on your luck on your CPU) will be about the maximum you can pull from either. The highest you can get with your current board, that'll be the max on the new one too.

All I'm saying, is that if you're going to upgrade the board, at least make it a beneficial upgrade, instead of just wasting $100 on USB 3.0 (especially since VERY little uses it).
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Actully I was looking at the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $134. Well I mostly want it for my esata ext dock. This board I have won't allow hotswapping and I hate using 3rd party software and does not always work well.

I don't understand why the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 would be a upgrade from the P8Z77-LE if I get my cpu to 4.5ghz on both boards why is one better than the other ? I have read in the past from others that Asus on avarage has always put out quality boards and that the software was better with more options in the bios. Why should I now switch after my last three builds were Asus boards. Your current board you have is a Asus. I believe what your saying, I don't why/how the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is better than the P8Z77-LE how is it better ? I'll have to read some reviews get more info. To be honest the Extreme4 was my second choice cause it was rated pretty good and it was cheap. It's just that Asus never did me wrong.
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Actully I was looking at the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $134. Well I mostly want it for my esata ext dock. This board I have won't allow hotswapping and I hate using 3rd party software and does not always work well.

I don't understand why the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 would be a upgrade from the P8Z77-LE if I get my cpu to 4.5ghz on both boards why is one better than the other ? I have read in the past from others that Asus on avarage has always put out quality boards and that the software was better with more options in the bios. Why should I now switch after my last three builds were Asus boards. Your current board you have is a Asus. I believe what your saying, I don't why/how the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is better than the P8Z77-LE how is it better ? I'll have to read some reviews get more info. To be honest the Extreme4 was my second choice cause it was rated pretty good and it was cheap. It's just that Asus never did me wrong.

Well, the ASRock Extreme4 supports SLI / Crossfire in 8x / 8x mode, something neither of the Asus boards you're looking at support. It also has a 8+2 phase power system, so you can clock that 2500k to the sky and back (as far as you want to push it). 8 phase is minimum to get REALLY high clocks on Sandy.

The biggest reason I would rather see you with the ASRock over the low end Asus is just because it offers more features, and it has a higher power delivery system. Not saying the Asus is "bad", its just that its a budget board, that's not really MEANT for the enthusiast crowd. The ASRock is a "budget enthusiast" board instead of just "budget".

Yes, I own an Asus board, but I also paid $210 for it on release day. frown.gif
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Because cheap Asus boards (under $180 usually) actually aren't a quality boards and bad buys (imho) compared to alternatives from the other manufacturers.

In addition to boards that pioneerisloud, recomended you may also consider Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H. It's a great board for the money with 6+2 digital PWM unlike Asus (digital) and ASRock (analog) boards that use 4 phases for that price range. Biostar boards also use 6 phase analog.
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Because cheap Asus boards (under $180 usually) actually aren't a quality boards and bad buys (imho) compared to alternatives from the other manufacturers.

In addition to boards that pioneerisloud, recomended you may also consider Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H. It's a great board for the money with 6+2 digital PWM unlike Asus (digital) and ASRock (analog) boards that use 4 phases for that price range. Biostar boards also use 6 phase analog.

The Extreme4 is 8 phase, and the Biostar TZ77XE series are 10 phase or higher.

The Gigabyte board is "okay", but I can't in good conscience recommend it, considering how shakey of a start they had with the 1155 line up.
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The Extreme4 is 8 phase, and the Biostar TZ77XE series are 10 phase or higher.
The Gigabyte board is "okay", but I can't in good conscience recommend it, considering how shakey of a start they had with the 1155 line up.


Nope they aren't

http://sinhardware.com/images/vrm.jpg

Extreme 4 uses ISL6367 PWM which is 6 phase PWM. ASRock uses only 4 phases and doubles it using doublers.

Same story with Biosar boards but they actually use all 6 phases and double them to 12.

Doubling isn't = to 12 true phases. Actually there are no 12 phase PWM on the market as far as I know.

There is only 1 10 phase Voltera PWM which was only used in EVGA X58 Classified as far I know.

Gigabyte had many failures with their P67, and Z68 boards, but that doesn't mean that Z77 is terrible. Their Z77 boards are rock solid, perform well, overclock well, and have no major issues. At the prices that Gigabyte offers their boards nobody can't beats them with what they offer.
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Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel Motherboards › Is the Asus P8Z77-V LE a step up from a Asus P8P67, 6+2 phase vs 12+2 phase is this important ?