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Of course, Android can technically run on Intel chips.... it is just how long until it runs well?

I've had the pleasure of playing with the Orange San Diego, the worlds first Android smart phone with an Intel CPU.

It's a single core CPU with hyper threading and the only other time I've felt Gingerbread 2.3.7 or Android in general as smooth and fluid as it was on this Intel phone was on a Galaxy S3.

It may be a single core but is bashes dual cores and knocks on the doors of quad-cores.

And Intel next chip for Android will be a dual-core with hyper threading, it'll be the best CPU available for mobile computing when it releases.
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Strange move to be honest - plenty of servers running atoms and linux :S
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They are not restricting it, they are not supporting it. Here is the problem. The clovertrail chips use a power cycling fuctions that intel could not get linux to work on. Since that power cycling functions are key to running linux on the chip at the battery life they said it would have, intel is not supporting linux. If you install linux, it will not handle the power cycling and would get average battery life. It will still work, just not as well as windows will.
When linux developers get the chip, they will make linux work with the power cycling, and then it will spread like wildfire.
If you want linux on the chip, it will work, just not work 100%. If you want it to work 100% you will have to get support from the os developer, because intel will not support it.
Nothing in the world is restricting linux on the chip, it is just the chip is not supported by linux. Most ARM chips are not support by linux. Anyone that tired to get a standard distro to work on their cellphone knows what a nightmare that is. I have ubuntu running on the old htc evo 4g, it works, but the battery life is horrible and that functions are slow. It has improved over time, but is not 100% supported.

Well IMO I hate to say it, but not supporting Linux is understandable then. frown.gif

But I don't understand how the biggest chip company in the world with insane amounts of money can't get 1 thing to work in Linux.
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But I don't understand how the biggest chip company in the world with insane amounts of money can't get 1 thing to work in Linux.

Time and money, why pour money and resources into a piece of software that hardly generates capital for your investment.
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Yea, because the telecos in uk does not form private monopolies.

yep the us phone industry sucks ball. monopolies always manage to take control of the us. probably because everyone buys into "free market" crap. it's also why the us economy is getting shafted by china-they refuse to put up protective tarrifs.

that said, a lot of electronic stuff is also cheaper in the us
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Time and money, why pour money and resources into a piece of software that hardly generates capital for your investment.

Read what I quoted. I understand that but I'm questioning how they were unable to get it done. Sure it's not easy but you'd think it's possible for such a huge company.
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Read what I quoted. I understand that but I'm questioning how they were unable to get it done. Sure it's not easy but you'd think it's possible for such a huge company.

For the same reason I just said above, why bother with Linux.

Do you honestly believe that Intel couldn't do it if they wanted too? Linux is just small fish and perhaps they felt there time and effort would be better put to use elsewhere.
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For the same reason I just said above, why bother with Linux.
Do you honestly believe that Intel couldn't do it if they wanted too? Linux is just small fish and perhaps they felt there time and effort would be better put to use elsewhere.

Well then that makes sense. I seriously doubt Intel couldn't do it if they really wanted too...
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Is Intel actually stupid? They're basically forcing anyone who wants to use linux on a cheap cpu in future to buy an AMD or  VIA cpu. They probably don't care because it's such a small loss.

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Originally Posted by Mr Frosty View Post

I've had the pleasure of playing with the Orange San Diego, the worlds first Android smart phone with an Intel CPU.
It's a single core CPU with hyper threading and the only other time I've felt Gingerbread 2.3.7 or Android in general as smooth and fluid as it was on this Intel phone was on a Galaxy S3.
It may be a single core but is bashes dual cores and knocks on the doors of quad-cores.
And Intel next chip for Android will be a dual-core with hyper threading, it'll be the best CPU available for mobile computing when it releases.

The Lava Xolo X900 was the first Intel smartphone to market in April. It basically uses the reference design. wink.gif
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone

The next Atom for smartphones isn't due until the end of 2013..... they will be competing against mature quad Cortex A-15 at 1.5GHz by then.
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