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Originally Posted by nubbinator View Post

Pretty much my thoughts. Radically changing the adapter isn't the issue. It's that they radically changed it and then want you to spend a ton to make products in their ecosystem work with it. If Apple gave warning of a change or made the adapter affordable or an easy swap, people wouldn't care. It's the fact that they make a radical change to their ecosystem and then have the audacity to charge you $40 for a single adapter to make something work in that ecosystem. It's a massive slap in the face to their loyal customers.

A massive slap in the face huh? Oh please, do be more dramatic. Just another case of people expecting a hand out and resisting change.
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Well first of all they change the connector when they could have easily kept the 30pin. Maybe they changed the connector because they were paying royalty fees to Motorola for the use of the 30pin idk. But when you are ordering a product and at first it says you ARE receiving a free adapter then they change their mind because they can profit from people buying them is made business. I don't think people are overreacting at all. Everyone that has a car/home accessory for the iphone is going to have to buy one. imo they should have included at least one. You never know maybe Apple will change there decision like when they gave out free bumpers/case!!!

Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.

May I direct anyone complaining to this image-

U3Jjw.jpg

Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.
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A massive slap in the face huh? Oh please, do be more dramatic. Just another case of people expecting a hand out and resisting change.

Let's create a hypothetical scenario then. Let's assume that you have a fully functioning computer, a good assumption given that you're on OCN. Now let's assume that Nvidia, AMD and Intel all, without warning, switched all video out to PTB (Post Thunderbolt) and didn't allow any partners to release a product with anything but PTB. By this time, consumers had amassed a large amount of accessories that used DVI, HDMI, and Displayport. Furthermore, when they released it, they refused to allow any of their partners to include an adapter from PTB to Displayport, HDMI, or DVI. Instead, they said that anyone looking to buy a new product would have to spend $90 on a single adapter. If you have multiple displays, you will have to pay $90 for each adapter. If that doesn't sound attractive, you can rebuy your monitors, projectors, or other video output devices.

How would you feel if that happened? I guarantee you that OCN and tech sites and forums everywhere would be in an uproar and incensed. Why? Because you had bought into an ecosystem that you were told would be stable. Not only that, but the adapter to make the technology work is incredibly expensive on top of already expensive technology you're buying.

It has nothing to do with people resisting change and everything to do with them being charged for something that should be included and charging an exorbitant price at that. That's why phones include SD caddies and why video cards include DVI to VGA and Molex to 6 pin adapers.
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Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.
May I direct anyone complaining to this image-
Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.

And how many of those created an ecosystem around a specific connector? I'd be willing to bet none of them. The problem is the glut of accessories Apple marketed and licensed to work specifically with that connector. I agree that technology needs to move forward, but if you are going to radically change it, you have to keep your ecosystem in mind and keep affordable solutions to fix any problems that might arise.

A good example of this is Windows. What if MS all of a sudden said that with Windows 8, 16bit and 32 bit software would no longer be supported. Not only that, but if you want to run any kind of 16 bit or 32 bit software, you have to buy a $30 piece of software that will make it compatible. Not only that, but if you want to run multiple 16bit or 32bit pieces of software at the same time, you have to buy a license for each of the instances. There would be massive outrage.

Or imagine video card switching to Thunderbolt only video out and not including an adapter, instead charging you an additional $80 on top of the card you bought. Wouldn't you feel ripped off as a consumer?
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So if tomorrow, every electronics company decided to phase out USB in favor of an incompatible interface with seemingly minor improvements, and the only way to get an adapter was to buy one yourself for $40, how would you feel? This is the exact situation you are describing, simply from another point of view (that of the average i-user).

An extreme analogy but it happens, I don't expect handouts. That is the price we pay for rapidly evolving technology and competition. I was angry when companies swapped between mini USB and micro USB but I adapted. That 30-pin connector has been around since 2003, if Apple is able to make the connector smaller and increase durability then I think it is a good decision. Apple offering an adapter is better than current iPhone users missing out on new peripherals.

I'm not happy with the price but like many Apple products it is overpriced, which is expected.
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Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.
May I direct anyone complaining to this image-
U3Jjw.jpg
Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.

Exactly!
Edited by black7hought - 9/14/12 at 5:38pm
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Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.
May I direct anyone complaining to this image-

Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.

Most people here arent even complaining about apples new adapter. Its the cost. I dont expect a free adapter, so the mistake regarding the news is nothing. I dont mind paying 10-20 dollars, although that still seems like a lot of money for an adapter. 30 dollars is just ridiculous.
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Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.
May I direct anyone complaining to this image-
U3Jjw.jpg
Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.

You beat me to it tongue.gif This new adapter is awesome. Micro-usb is pain the rear to plug in at night time.
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Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.

Do you own Apple stock?

It would not be a big deal if Apple included one adapter for free, or offered them at $10-15. But $40 for a piece that costs no more than $0.50 to make is crazy. If I was an i-user that had say, 3-4 (or more) devices that used the 30 pin interface (living room stereo, bedroom, car, kitchen, etc) and I had to pay $40 to use my phone on each device, I'd be pissed. People aren't mad that they are changing the connector, they are mad that to get any backwards capability they have to send stupid amounts of money.
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Don't understand how people can defend this..
They were told that they'd get a free adaptor, now they have to shell out $30 or $40. And if they have multiple devices and they don't want to carry a cable around, that'll be $30 or $40 for every device they have (iPod alarm dock, sound system, car sound system, there the only 3 that I can think of atm). If it was $10, it wouldn't be as bad, no where near as bad. It goes from a pretty fair $30 for 3 adaptors, to $90 or $120..
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Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.
May I direct anyone complaining to this image-
U3Jjw.jpg
Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.
i like how apple fanboys will do anything to defend their overlord apple
look at the samsung adapters..i see a vga cable...s-video cable, several duplicate cables ...i mean really..this is just like when someone posted photoshopped galaxy s vs iphone comparison
 
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Although they are changing the adapter, no one gave a flying proverbial about it happening to any other phone. Everyone is just looking for a reason to dislike apple.
May I direct anyone complaining to this image-
U3Jjw.jpg
Go Apple. This was an upgrade that was due for a long time, expecting a free adapter is nothing short of self-entitlement. It's literally people mindlessly hating Apple for innovating their product yet again.

False.

When the sheeple bought all their crApple iplugs and crApple ichargers there was the assumption, and selling point along the way that all those crApple igadgets WERE interchangeable. Now you have all these 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen sheeple. With tons of $$$ spent on accessories, and here is the kicker on apps/songs/movies on the crApple istore. They have their sheeple lead around by money that they already spent.

You want a new phone that will let you keep all your apps/music/movies than you will have to update your accessories. And I would bet all the money in my left pocket that these adapters last about 2 months before they no longer work.

You know how they keep animals from being afraid of the slaughter house?? They lead them through it while it is clean. Then when it is covered in blood and death is in the air the animals don't freak out.

Enjoy being gouged every possible chance they get.
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