Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › 2560x1440 120hz Hardware & Demanding Gaming Thoughts
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

2560x1440 120hz Hardware & Demanding Gaming Thoughts

Poll Results: How would you prepare for demanding games at 2560x1440 @ 120hz?

 
  • 6% (1)
    Spend thousands now and get as close to 120FPS as possible
  • 66% (10)
    Wait until next generation hardware before spending and hope for 120FPS+
  • 26% (4)
    Keep what you have and only get 120FPS on non-demanding games
15 Total Votes  
post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
We’re on the verge of 2560x1440 120hz monitors going a little more mainstream now incase you haven’t been keeping up. Even just single monitor gaming is going to need some serious horse power if you’re shooting for a constant 120FPS+. I honestly don’t believe that in my personal experience, even 4 GTX 680’s, 2 GTX 690’s, or 4 7970’s can even currently keep up with this requirement for the most demanding games. I currently have half a dozen games in my Steam library that I can’t even run at 2560x1440 with a constant 60FPS with 2 overclocked 4GB GTX 680’s (This would be in-game settings and nothing ridiculous like 20GB texture packs or enabling 64xAA in the Nvidia control panel or something. I’m even being modest and just enabling like 8xAA instead of 32x AA if there’s the option for it) This isn’t CPU limitation either or anything when I see my two GPUs running at 99% GPU usage and my FPS starts to dip below 60.

I’m the type of person who doesn’t "like" to play any games unless I can run them at full settings and 60 FPS. I haven’t finished/got far into games like: Crysis 1, Metro 2033, Arma II, Witcher 2 w/ Ubersampling, Shogun 2, etc. because my 2 GTX 680’s still can’t even meet the 60 FPS requirement with modest AA like 8x.

Even if you’re like me and have 2 GTX 680’s, getting another 2 of them won’t grant you a double of your FPS. Maybe 50% if you’re lucky depending on the game. Those 5 games I mentioned above, sure as hell won’t run at 120FPS 2560x1440 even with 4 overclocked GTX 680’s if I can’t get them to run at 60FPS with 2 overclocked GTX 680’s.

The question for you is:

(1) Spend thousands of dollars worth of GPUS (4) and be happy you’re playing demanding games above 60 FPS but never 120 FPS

(2) Wait until the next generation of GPU hardware for demanding games and spend the money / upgrade then and hopefully get a constant 120 FPS then

(3) Keep what you have and be happy you can at least play non-demanding games at 120 FPS but never 120 FPS for demanding ones

What's really boggling my mind is this: Even if money isn't much of a factor, should you bother spending thousands of dollars right now when you can't even reach that magical # of 120 anyway?

This thread isn’t for people who don’t care about 120hz or want to argue about its benefits or not. I just want to see what other people who are on the fence or currently own a 1440p 120hz monitor feel about this.
post #2 of 14
Would you mind sharing a few of these 120hz 1440p monitors please?
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 4ghz 1.25v Evga Classified E760/E762 Evga Gtx 480 + Galaxy GTX 480 SLI 6GB Corsair Dominator GT 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial C300 256Gb, Samsung 7200rpm 320gb, 2x W... Windows 7 64-bit Home premium Dell U2410 1920x1200 Wireless Logitech 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Quatro 1200w Corsair 800D Razer Death Adder Office Depot thingy 
AudioAudio
Asus Xonar STX Sennheiser HD555's 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 4ghz 1.25v Evga Classified E760/E762 Evga Gtx 480 + Galaxy GTX 480 SLI 6GB Corsair Dominator GT 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial C300 256Gb, Samsung 7200rpm 320gb, 2x W... Windows 7 64-bit Home premium Dell U2410 1920x1200 Wireless Logitech 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Quatro 1200w Corsair 800D Razer Death Adder Office Depot thingy 
AudioAudio
Asus Xonar STX Sennheiser HD555's 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 14
I run at 2560x1440 and currently have a GTX 470 pushing it.

With that said, I am aware of the performance I am getting, how are you not hitting 60 FPS with GTX 680's in Sli? I would make sure both your cards are actually being utilized and that you have a proper installation and Sli profile going. There is absolutely no reason you shouldn't be holding 60 fps with your configuration.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/585
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 5820K AsRock Extreme6 X99 Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti Windforce OC 16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB - HDD Speed Edtition Samsung SM951 512 GB - I still hate Samsung!  Noctua NHD14 Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Achieva Shimian QH270-Lite Overlord Computer Tempest X27OC  Acer Predator XB270HU Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-1250 Fractal Design R5 Razer Naga Razer Goliathus Alpha 
AudioAudio
AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition Creative Sound Blaster Zx 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 5820K AsRock Extreme6 X99 Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti Windforce OC 16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB - HDD Speed Edtition Samsung SM951 512 GB - I still hate Samsung!  Noctua NHD14 Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Achieva Shimian QH270-Lite Overlord Computer Tempest X27OC  Acer Predator XB270HU Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-1250 Fractal Design R5 Razer Naga Razer Goliathus Alpha 
AudioAudio
AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition Creative Sound Blaster Zx 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 14

i dont own a 1440p monitor but i do run 5760x1080 resolutin i also love to play games totally maxed out but sometimes i have to back things down in order to play. right now i only have a single 2gb 680 but i think that with a second one i should be able to pretty much max out or get at least close to maxing everything out on most games. msaa might be an issue with this gen of cards from both nvidia and ati because it seems like we need more memory bandwidth from both brands. I do see that cards are getting alot better. hell remember back when eyefinity came out? do you think that you can honestly game on a triple screen setup with a 5870 videocard? no! but now with a single 680 or 7970 you can. not 100% maxed out but you still can and you will have a really good experience. probably not on the next gen but i think that maybe 2 more gens of videocards will be solid enough to max out most of everything at ridiculous resolutions. i know that games will be more taxing but still. hardware is becoming ridiculous.

 

 

lastly. 4way sli and xfire x are horrible setups and most of the times hurt performance because of drivers issues and games not utilizing the cards properly. so i recomend that you try to back it down to either 3way sli or even sli.


Edited by manolith - 9/14/12 at 8:51pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.2ghz X58 SLI Classified EVGA 1080ti @2012/5858 18GB Corsair/Patriot 12800 Tri-ch @ 2013mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ ARC100 240gb  2TB 7200rpm WD cheap DVD Swiftech Apogee XT. Swiftech MCP 655 Pump and ... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
win 10 64bit XB280HK razer black widow ultimate Corsair 850W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF932-AMD Logitech G9x razer corsair vengeance 1500 
Other
Thrustmasters T500rs, Fanatec CSR elite pedals ... 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.2ghz X58 SLI Classified EVGA 1080ti @2012/5858 18GB Corsair/Patriot 12800 Tri-ch @ 2013mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ ARC100 240gb  2TB 7200rpm WD cheap DVD Swiftech Apogee XT. Swiftech MCP 655 Pump and ... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
win 10 64bit XB280HK razer black widow ultimate Corsair 850W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF932-AMD Logitech G9x razer corsair vengeance 1500 
Other
Thrustmasters T500rs, Fanatec CSR elite pedals ... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 14

I know I need to pick up 2k monitors... I've been using 1440p since 2010. It is getting mainstream now. /sarcasm

 

btw a Single GTX680 on 1440p, you can run pretty much any games. Unless you go crazy on Ultra DX11 Crysis 2 and Metro 2033.

 
≡ Snowbaru ≡
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3930K 4.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X79 EVGA GTX TITAN 1250Mhz KPE/Hybrid BIOS (SOLD) NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Founder Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GB Samsung 30nm 2400Mhz OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung 850 EVO 13000GB HDDs 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
EKWB Custom Watercooling, XSPC, Bitpower, Primo... Windows 10 Pro x64 (1607) ASUS PG278Q G-SYNC (2560x1440) Logitech G910 Onion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 Gold Fractal Design Define S Logitech G502 Logitech G440 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Logitech G933 Xbox One Controller Asus RT-AC68U Hitron CDA3 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
Other
5HP 
  hide details  
Reply
 
≡ Snowbaru ≡
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3930K 4.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X79 EVGA GTX TITAN 1250Mhz KPE/Hybrid BIOS (SOLD) NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Founder Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GB Samsung 30nm 2400Mhz OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung 850 EVO 13000GB HDDs 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
EKWB Custom Watercooling, XSPC, Bitpower, Primo... Windows 10 Pro x64 (1607) ASUS PG278Q G-SYNC (2560x1440) Logitech G910 Onion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 Gold Fractal Design Define S Logitech G502 Logitech G440 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Logitech G933 Xbox One Controller Asus RT-AC68U Hitron CDA3 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
Other
5HP 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 14
Is that actually an Alienware in your sig?

I believe it because.. killer 2100.....

It doesn't even support dot1q at its pricepoint.
post #7 of 14
As far as using a 120hz 1440p panel I have not, but I would imagine your setup should run it quite nicely, maybe go tri-SLi down the road but thats being really wild, for your resolution your setup is fine IMO.
I have/formely used a 120hz 24" and while it was cool and I like it, my current monitor dwarfs it. This H-IPS is a smooth, crisp gamer and the quality/color's are very impressive/vibrant/rich.
As far as gaming, it depends on your needs.
My GTX 670 games very well at my resolution, many games at max settings, most at high to very high; although I see scenarios like Crysis 2 on Ultra with all the goodies for example that would require another GPU. For 120 FPS SLi GTX 680's at 1440p should do very very well, thats a decent resolution but its not that high, not like with an eyefinity/3DS setup. biggrin.gif

Edit: You could upgrade your CPU.
And use the NIC on your mobo, not the KIller NIC.
Toms Hardware's test showed onboard 1GB NICs performed as good, usually better.
Your mobo should by dual lan like mine.
Edited by amstech - 9/15/12 at 1:07pm
buildX
(16 items)
 
X3Elite (HTPC)
(14 items)
 
Dell XPS L702X
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 930 @ 4.0GHz (24/7) HT/on  Asus P6TD Deluxe Gigabyte 2GB GTX 670 Windforce3X OC  6GB OCZ Gold 1600 (tri-channel) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7.2K 16MB Cache Prolimatech Megahalem Rev.B (Push/Pull) Windows 7 Home Premium 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X233H Razer BlackWidow Ultimate  OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W XClio Windtunnel 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable  Razer Goliathus 444mm x 355mm - Speed Edition ... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 X3 BE @ 3.2GHz 24/7 MSi 770-G45 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870  8GB GSkill RipJaw 1333Mhz  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Samsung F3  DVD+-RW  Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 60" LG 60PA5500 Plasma 
MonitorPowerCase
Acer X1373WH Projector Corsair CX500 Cooler Master 430 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
i5-2430M Intel HD Graphics  Nvidia 1GB GT 550M (GF116) w/Optimus|DX11|144 ... 6GB DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120GB PNY 1311 SSD 500GB 7.2K RPM Windows7 Home Premium 64 17.3" WLED TL 1600 X 900 with 2.0MP HD webcam 
KeyboardCaseAudio
Backlit Keyboard Elemental Silver Aluminum JBL 2.1 W/ Built-in Subwoofer 
  hide details  
Reply
buildX
(16 items)
 
X3Elite (HTPC)
(14 items)
 
Dell XPS L702X
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 930 @ 4.0GHz (24/7) HT/on  Asus P6TD Deluxe Gigabyte 2GB GTX 670 Windforce3X OC  6GB OCZ Gold 1600 (tri-channel) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7.2K 16MB Cache Prolimatech Megahalem Rev.B (Push/Pull) Windows 7 Home Premium 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X233H Razer BlackWidow Ultimate  OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W XClio Windtunnel 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable  Razer Goliathus 444mm x 355mm - Speed Edition ... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 X3 BE @ 3.2GHz 24/7 MSi 770-G45 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870  8GB GSkill RipJaw 1333Mhz  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Samsung F3  DVD+-RW  Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 60" LG 60PA5500 Plasma 
MonitorPowerCase
Acer X1373WH Projector Corsair CX500 Cooler Master 430 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
i5-2430M Intel HD Graphics  Nvidia 1GB GT 550M (GF116) w/Optimus|DX11|144 ... 6GB DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120GB PNY 1311 SSD 500GB 7.2K RPM Windows7 Home Premium 64 17.3" WLED TL 1600 X 900 with 2.0MP HD webcam 
KeyboardCaseAudio
Backlit Keyboard Elemental Silver Aluminum JBL 2.1 W/ Built-in Subwoofer 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 14
8x AA at 1080p+ does not worth the heavy load it's adding on the GPU.

Run everything at 4x AA and enjoy extra FPS coming from this.
Main system
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600K@4.4 ASUS P8Z68-V gigabyte hd 7970 oc (1040 1475) Kingston HyperX Genesis 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel 330 Series OEM CollerMaster Hyper212+ Win7 64 
MonitorPower
ASUS 24'' 1080p Corsair 750W 
  hide details  
Reply
Main system
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600K@4.4 ASUS P8Z68-V gigabyte hd 7970 oc (1040 1475) Kingston HyperX Genesis 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel 330 Series OEM CollerMaster Hyper212+ Win7 64 
MonitorPower
ASUS 24'' 1080p Corsair 750W 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 14
this may sound stupid but i can notice a difference from 120fps to 240 fps on a 120 hz monitor
post #10 of 14
Seyumi,

I saw your post and wanted to provide you with some quick feedback regarding 120Hz 2560 x 1440 monitors. I recently bought an Overlord Tempest 270OC 120Hz 2560 x 1440 S-IPS LED monitor and it was worth every penny. It costs $529 + S&H ($35 UPS Ground). The monitor is absolutely immersive and blows away both of my 120Hz monitors that I own. I own three Alienware AW2310 OptX monitors and one BenQ 2410T. As you are probably aware, all of these monitors are TN panels, while the Tempest is an S-IPS LED panel. So, the question of which monitor looks better is no competition at all - the Tempest rules in all areas. From color gamut to response time, the Tempest is absolutely perfect in every way. And no backlight bleeding whatsoever! The only two complaints from me are that the finish of the screen is glossy and not matte, so you can see reflections behind you in brighter environments. The second complaint is the absolutely craptastic stand which only allows for a very limited tilt function. No pivot, swivel, or vertical adjustment - and landscape to portrait mode is a no-go. Also, the bezel is a bit large and thus running three of them in surround is not really a good option.

Now, what about gaming performance you may ask? I am running a fairly beefy gaming system with a 3930K OC'd to 4.6Ghz and three EVGA GTX680 4GB FTWs in 3-way SLI. So, my system is able to easily achieve over 100FPS in both BF3 and COD Black Ops 2 with all settings maxed. NVidia has done wonders with optimizations to their drivers over the past 6 months and thus the performance is much better even when all the settings are maxed. Both games look absolutely amazing at 2560 x 1440 with all graphic settings maxed. I saw that you are running two GTX690s in quad-SLI, so you shouldn't have any issues running these games at the same settings that I'm running thumb.gif

I hope this helps you with your future decision making process. The only bad news I have is that Overlord.com has said that they will not have any more stock of the Tempest 270OC monitors until March due to the Chinese Spring festivals delaying production of new monitors until mid-February.

Go here to take a look at the Tempest: www.overlordcomputer.com

Holler back at me via PM if you have any questions regarding the monitor.
Edited by Ninjawithagun - 2/3/13 at 11:26am
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Graphics Cards - General
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › 2560x1440 120hz Hardware & Demanding Gaming Thoughts