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I just want to go slap this guy in the face. He was pullin the "Im a certified IT guy at Best Buy" stuff. Lol

Certified IT = Idiot Technician or some thing or other,,,,,,
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Umm, SSD vs HDD the BIOS may POST faster with the SSD. Windows will have nothing to do with POST tho.
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Umm, SSD vs HDD the BIOS may POST faster with the SSD. Windows will have nothing to do with POST tho.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell him.
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If he really knew what he was talking about he wouldn't be working at best buy :/
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If he really knew what he was talking about he wouldn't be working at best buy :/

Ignorant post is ignorant. I work at staples as an easy tech and when I move I will probably work at best buy. There are smart people who work at best buy.
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Just a simple question. I thought it started when the Windows logo starts. But some guy just literally screamed his head off at me and said it starts when you press the power button.

It depends what you are referring to. Boot time or Windows boot time. Boot time includes everything from the moment you press the power button on your case, whereas Windows boot time only starts counting when the BIOS hands over control to the OS, and that is usually more or less at around the time the Windows logo appears on screen.

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This guy was saying the SSD and Windows 7 was affecting the speed of the BIOS, which is not true. I know an OS doesn't have an affect on BIOS. I just needed backup from you guys.

Actually, it may be true when it comes to SSDs (not the OS though). For best results SSDs should be used with the SATA controller in AHCI mode. In some motherboards that requires you to turn on AHCI mode, which comes turned off by default. On my Gigabyte EP45-UD3LR turning on AHCI mode results in the BIOS taking longer to boot, with additional firmware having to be initialized.
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I meant Windows boot time.
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post #18 of 22
Windows boot time does not include the BIOS, it only starts around when the windows logo appears.

The boot time from when you press the power button is what I'd consider the real boot time, the one that matters... It's not windows' fault that the BIOS takes a few seconds and gives you an opportunity to enter setup, is it? No. because every other OS has to deal with the same delay, therefore the WINDOWS Boot time does not start when you press the power button.

You're free to call him mistaken or just dumb. smile.gif
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post #19 of 22
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I meant Windows boot time.

Well then, it's just a matter of being specific about it when talking to other people. I'm sure once you make the distinction between both, there should be no confusion left. It may be a question of semantics for some people, some may consider that Windows boot time includes everything. Both metrics are important to assess different things. Asus X79 motherboards for example take a long time for the BIOS to even display something on-screen after you press the power button.

I'd say there are three metrics:

POST (Power-on self-test) - the time it takes for the BIOS to perform all the tests right up to the point when it hands over control to the OS.

Windows boot time - the time it takes from the time the BIOS hands over control to the OS until the OS is ready to accept commands (this varies from person to person, some say that it is when the desktop appears, others say it is when all the icons have been rendered on the desktop, others say that it is only when the "work in progress" mouse pointer disappears.)

Boot time - includes both of the above.
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Take any boot timing software and it will count the time from when the windows OS gets given the leash from the motherboards bios,

Boot time is Windows based from software start to software load end,

Any body that states that it starts from pushing the power button has been mislead,

Every computer has two boot sequences Bios and then Operating system,

If you count from the press of the power switch then sorry you are calculating both of the sequences and you are not benching the OS's boot time,

Raid can boot slower through the bios than a single HDD does and under most circumstances Raid does because the Bios needs to check the integrity of the Raid array before it gives the boot code the all clear before the OS starts to load,


So like I said earlier you are correct but do not get on a high horse about this topic because that could in turn raid you and you will end up being slower, wink.gif
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