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So the H100/H80 isn't all the way up there with the NH-D14 huh? Without the whole 'blocking RAM slots' and "hanging 3lbs of metal off my MB' things? Or the ability to have both good cooling and actually be able to work on the computer without having to remove the heatsink? Also, the Corsair fans are both quiet, and enough to keep the CPU cool on low settings, it's when they rev up that's the problem, and you can't really find fans with that CFM without the noise. Oh, lets not forget the heat only exiting the case with a closed loop, instead of being still in the case, waiting for exhaust fans to move it out.
Ya, gimmick alright, they just do what the best air coolers do, at the same price point, with none of the hassle. rolleyes.gif
The H80 isn't as good as the NH-D14. The H100 I think is a little better. And who cares about blocking the RAM? Just don't get one of those gimmicky Corsair RAMs with the huge heatspreaders, when you can get RAM just as good without those tall heatspreaders. And overclocks the same (I'm pretty sure).

LOL the H100 only performs better than the Noctua when it's fans rev up really loud. While the Noctua is absolutely silent. And if you want, you can replace the fans for the Noctua with a higher speed, which somewhat improves temperature. You would want to replace the H100 fans anyway since I've heard they are pretty loud compared to other fans at the same RPM.

If you set up your case fans right, there won't be a problem with heat going around the case. So for my case, the NZXT Phantom, I would like to put the rear exhaust pointing out, the top left fan pointing out, and the top right fan pointing in, supplying my NH-D14 with air in the front.
I suggest anyone that sees this if they have enough fans and a case that can do this, to try it out with an upright heatsink pointing towards the back of the case. Temps improve while keeping the heat out.

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Well, you've made your allegiance clear.tongue.gif
The H80 can't really challenge the NH-D14 (or similar dual-tower coolers such as the Silver Arrow and Phanteks). The bolded statement is telling me that the H100 can challenge the NH-D14, but the former will have very loud fan noise as a consequence -- this is true. The OP seems to be looking for the optimal blend of thermal performance and noise for the money -- I think you can do better than a closed loop kit for thermal performance/noise at any price point.
This is exactly what I wanted to say.
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Well, you've made your allegiance clear.tongue.gif
The H80 can't really challenge the NH-D14 (or similar dual-tower coolers such as the Silver Arrow and Phanteks). The bolded statement is telling me that the H100 can challenge the NH-D14, but the former will have very loud fan noise as a consequence -- this is true. The OP seems to be looking for the optimal blend of thermal performance and noise for the money -- I think you can do better than a closed loop kit for thermal performance/noise at any price point.

More or less, yes. I have my corsair fans on a controller, and they can keep my CPU cold at a noise level under my GPUs noise level. What RPM they're at I couldn't tell you, it's a simple twist-knob controller. Ramping the fans up does very little to provide more cooling as well.

With the mentioned sacrifices, yes. Personally, I find a little noise preferable to hanging 3 lbs of metal off the PCB. Especially if you're getting a board with very thin PCB, like an ASRock. I use Gigabyte boards almost exclusively, and I still wouldn't want to do it.
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The H80 isn't as good as the NH-D14. The H100 I think is a little better. And who cares about blocking the RAM? Just don't get one of those gimmicky Corsair RAMs with the huge heatspreaders, when you can get RAM just as good without those tall heatspreaders. And overclocks the same (I'm pretty sure).
LOL the H100 only performs better than the Noctua when it's fans rev up really loud. While the Noctua is absolutely silent. And if you want, you can replace the fans for the Noctua with a higher speed, which somewhat improves temperature. You would want to replace the H100 fans anyway since I've heard they are pretty loud compared to other fans at the same RPM.
If you set up your case fans right, there won't be a problem with heat going around the case. So for my case, the NZXT Phantom, I would like to put the rear exhaust pointing out, the top left fan pointing out, and the top right fan pointing in, supplying my NH-D14 with air in the front.
I suggest anyone that sees this if they have enough fans and a case that can do this, to try it out with an upright heatsink pointing towards the back of the case. Temps improve while keeping the heat out.

The NH-D14 should be right between them, ya.

A lot of people. It's probably the #1 turn off for massive air coolers that I've seen around OCN.

Ya, heat spreaders are just there to look pretty, look at the Samsungs.

Ya, they're built for CFM, and I honestly have no idea why. The H100 really doesn't need that kind of airflow to stay cool, as seen by people replacing the fans with COUGARs. See above about noise/RPM.

Yes, but most people dont bother to take the time and money to properly set up the fans in their case. frown.gif

I will keep that in mind, always a good thing to know.
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So since you guys are talking about closed loop kit vs custom water, I would like to know how does a custom watercooling compare to the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer.
I just bought the Thermaltake one and Im curious if I would get a lot better temps with a custom watercool loop.

Here are the parts for the custom loop that Im planning to buy: (note that this is for the CPU only)

EK Supremacy cpu block
D5 / MCP655 pump
Blackice GT Stealth 360mm RAdiator
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1/2" ID 3/4" OD fittings + tube

Here is my current system:

NZXT 810 Switch case
2600K @ 4.5ghz
Asus Sabertooth Z77
16g Corsair ram
MSI GTX 680 Lightning

Currently using the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer and would like to know if it worth it to switch over to the custom loop that I listed above. The custom loop will cost around $300+ that's why I want to know if it worth it. For example, if it'll be like 2-5C degrees better than the Thermaltake, obviously Im not gonna do it cause I don't think that worth $300+ just to get 2-5C degrees better temps. If anyone has a better recommendation for
a better radiator, feel free to let me know. Any help would be appreciated.
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More or less, yes. I have my corsair fans on a controller, and they can keep my CPU cold at a noise level under my GPUs noise level. What RPM they're at I couldn't tell you, it's a simple twist-knob controller. Ramping the fans up does very little to provide more cooling as well.
With the mentioned sacrifices, yes. Personally, I find a little noise preferable to hanging 3 lbs of metal off the PCB. Especially if you're getting a board with very thin PCB, like an ASRock. I use Gigabyte boards almost exclusively, and I still wouldn't want to do it.
The NH-D14 should be right between them, ya.
A lot of people. It's probably the #1 turn off for massive air coolers that I've seen around OCN.
Ya, heat spreaders are just there to look pretty, look at the Samsungs.
Ya, they're built for CFM, and I honestly have no idea why. The H100 really doesn't need that kind of airflow to stay cool, as seen by people replacing the fans with COUGARs. See above about noise/RPM.
Yes, but most people dont bother to take the time and money to properly set up the fans in their case. frown.gif
I will keep that in mind, always a good thing to know.

I agree that it is situational. I had a NH-D14 in my previous mATX FT03 that obfuscated mounting of a side intake, thus providing sub-par temperatures. If I went with a H80 I would have likely gotten much better temperatures without excessive noise.

In a larger mid tower or a full tower I think a dual-tower air cooler or a custom loop are pretty safe bets.
Edited by friend'scatdied - 9/16/12 at 11:20am
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