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Specs:
new rig

Motherboard:AsRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3
PSU: FSP ATX600-pnr, 600w
CPU:i5 2500k 3300ghz
CPU cooler: Zalman Performa
Memory: 4*2 corsar 1600 ghz
GPU: GeForce 560 Ti
OS: Windows 7 64 Ultimate

Problem:short random freezes(like less 1,5 sec) in games(tested on dota 2, Team Fortress 2). After freeze game runs like nothing happened. The weird thing is that fps stays solid at these moments. tested on maximum 1920*1080 and on lowest 1920*1080 - freezes are there, fps is high as it should be. VSync on/off - no changes. Latency is not the problem here - in Deus ex Human Revolution the problem remains, but its almost insensible(maybe cause i'm playing slow)

What i did so far:
1) Reinstall windows, test with nothing but drivers - fail
2)Played with CPU settings:
-speedstep, C-states on/off in various combinations
- overclocked CPU to 4500 - solid like a rock on 1,350v
-tried offset/fixed modes
-tried 1,405 v
-every mode tested with prime95 for about 20 minutes with 0 errors/warnings
-now i'm on 4500, offset -0.050, all power saving options disabled , 9 hours prime95 test - max temp 67, 0 errors
3)GPU is not overclocked, FurMarks 15 minute 1920*1080 test gave me:
- 2363 points, min fps 25, max fps 26
The weird thing, that donut flew smooth, without freezes.

4)checked gpu cables

First guess was that it's all about speedstep( random volt spikes in cpu-z , cpu jumped from 1600 to 4500 non stop). But now it shows stable voltage and freq, and the problem remains.
Besides games everything is fast as it gave to be.

Please help drool.gif

P.S. To moderator - if it's wrong forum please move it to the right, i just didn't find any support specialized forums here.weirdsmiley.gif
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Guess i'm not the only one noob here lol
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I would take a long hard look at your storage. Pay a special attention to the disk Que length. If it hits 100% and stays there during the freezes then you have probably found the reason. I have seen such things happen when using Crucial v4 series 32 GB SSD (a particularly crappy controller or firmware error in it atm, so I would avoid using these for now if possible, at least until they release new firmware) and a while back when running software RAID 1 on the system disks - one of the disks were a bit faulty at a closer inspection of a SMART data.
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I would take a long hard look at your storage. Pay a special attention to the disk Que length. If it hits 100% and stays there during the freezes then you have probably found the reason. I have seen such things happen when using Crucial v4 series 32 GB SSD (a particularly crappy controller or firmware error in it atm, so I would avoid using these for now if possible, at least until they release new firmware) and a while back when running software RAID 1 on the system disks - one of the disks were a bit faulty at a closer inspection of a SMART data.
Thank you for your reply. Finally something useful been said. What soft i need to check it?

P.S. I'm using new 3,5" 500 Gb WD5000AZRRX 64 MB Caviar Green

[Update]
Ok, the best i found is performance monitor. Ideas what i have to check there besides queue length?
Edited by OCno0b - 9/18/12 at 7:31am
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Thank you for your reply. Finally something useful been said. What soft i need to check it?
P.S. I'm using new 3,5" 500 Gb WD5000AZRRX 64 MB Caviar Green
[Update]
Ok, the best i found is performance monitor. Ideas what i have to check there besides queue length?

As I have quite many screens then I'm usually just using the windows performance monitor on one of these for keeping eye on disk usage patterns, the que is the blue line while the actual usage is the green one in there. Now, keep in mind that this is just my impression that storage lockup might be related to such behavior and I do not know for sure if this is the reason for such freezes or just one of the side effects. I think its closer to the reason than a side effect, but its just my impression. The disk you mentioned should be perfectly capable of operating just fine.

I assume its in ACHI mide and you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled, so one possibility of cheking the disk health is to use program to analyse the SMART data, I usually use speedfan for that - it has one tab for a smart data and has sort of "quick reference" possibility with the web database if these SMART numbers are normal. If SMART data is normal then its possible to go over the power settings scheme for the windows to see that the disk is not powering down after short interval of not used. It's somewhere in the advanced settings in the power usage menu in control panel.

In addition to que length the task manager performance monitor also shows "responce time" for the disks, if it gets more than 100 ms then there is something odd going on with the disk usually if the disk is not under heavy load.
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Last time I experienced that it was a game-specific NVidia driver issue, another time it was MSI Afterburner.

1: Turn anything like Afterburner or any GPU management programs completely off (no tray icon) while you game and see the freezes stop.

2: Try different driver versions. Be sure to check the option that removes all profiles etc when uninstalling/reinstalling
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1: Turn anything like Afterburner or any GPU management ...
2: Try different driver versions. ..

Removed my drivers and everything, installed 295.73 driver only, killed nvidia control panel in task bar - nothing. Thank you anyway - 1 more step to finding that needle in a haystack.

Talking about hdd - yes, i'm using AHCI and S.M.A.R.T. enabled in bios.

Everything works as it should be, i think i can coordinate space shuttles from this pc, but still - no games:
--checked S.M.A.R.T. with Acronis Drive Monitor - - it tells, that everything is normal. checked with SpeedFan too - nothing. (Click to show) -- Seems like everything is ok with response time - you can see it on screens
-- And i turned off power-saving feature on it (it was 45 minutes (: )
Screens (Click to show)


I'd better buy new HDD(or even CPU) but these f*ckers seem to be working like a charm, so i continue this braindamaging search and still - i need more advices weirdsmiley.gif
Edited by OCno0b - 9/18/12 at 1:31pm
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