Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › GTX 460 1GB vs GTX 650 2GB
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

GTX 460 1GB vs GTX 650 2GB

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hey everyone, I went out today and bought a new video card to save some room in my case, as I needed to add a SATA controller. My existing 460 1GB was way too big, taking up some PCI slots. The 650 is nice and compact and gives me more case room.

Question. Since this is a brand new card, there aren't many benchmarks out there to research. But, is my new 650 a better/faster card then my 460? I would hate to have swaped out my existing card for a slower one.

Thanks!
post #2 of 23
I would assume that the 650 is indeed faster (or equal to) the 460. Being two complete generations ahead. Although it does have its "future-proof" disadvantages what with the 192-bit bus and all that. But boasting a core clock of just over 1 Ghz and 2GB of ram I'd say you made a decent upgrade. In short terms, I don't think you back-pedaled there, maybe a bit more of a side-step. rolleyes.gif
Edited by Insan1tyOne - 9/16/12 at 4:15pm
MiniNova
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E5 2637 V3 Asrock X99E-ITX/ac Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! 16GB Mushkin Enhanced Blackline @ 2133mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 Evo M.2 250GB WD Caviar Black 2TB Corsair H100i GTX Windows 10 Education Edition 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 34UM95-P ErgoDox EZ EVGA G1 1000W Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Steelseries Sensei Steelseries 4HD Beyerdynamic T5p Headphones Schiit Mjolnir 2 Amp / Gungnir USB Gen. 2 DAC 
  hide details  
Reply
MiniNova
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E5 2637 V3 Asrock X99E-ITX/ac Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! 16GB Mushkin Enhanced Blackline @ 2133mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 Evo M.2 250GB WD Caviar Black 2TB Corsair H100i GTX Windows 10 Education Edition 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 34UM95-P ErgoDox EZ EVGA G1 1000W Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Steelseries Sensei Steelseries 4HD Beyerdynamic T5p Headphones Schiit Mjolnir 2 Amp / Gungnir USB Gen. 2 DAC 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 23
post #4 of 23
I think your 460 might of been a little bit better than the 650. I think the 650 runs between the 7750 and the 7770 if i am not mistaken. 650 is only 128 bit bandwidth right?
Edited by jeffro37 - 9/16/12 at 4:16pm
jeffro37
(14 items)
 
755 websurfer
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-2500k MSI Z77A-G45 EVGA 780 sc Kingston Hyper X Genises 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840  Seagate 750gb sata III Samsung 24x DVD-RW Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 pro Samsung 32" LCD Logitec 520 (wireless) Corsair TX 750 
CaseMouse
Coolermaster HAF X Logitec laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel c2d e7400 xFx 750i sli ext. Evga 660 sc Kingston ddr2 800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
WD 250 gb  hyper 212+ Windows 7 64 ultimate/ Ubuntu 13.04 Ultra X3 600w / full modular 
Case
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer 
  hide details  
Reply
jeffro37
(14 items)
 
755 websurfer
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-2500k MSI Z77A-G45 EVGA 780 sc Kingston Hyper X Genises 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840  Seagate 750gb sata III Samsung 24x DVD-RW Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 pro Samsung 32" LCD Logitec 520 (wireless) Corsair TX 750 
CaseMouse
Coolermaster HAF X Logitec laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel c2d e7400 xFx 750i sli ext. Evga 660 sc Kingston ddr2 800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
WD 250 gb  hyper 212+ Windows 7 64 ultimate/ Ubuntu 13.04 Ultra X3 600w / full modular 
Case
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 23
GTX 460 was a beast, and will take at least another generation before a X50 class nvidia can overtake it, maybe even two generations or more..
Light Gamer #1
(12 items)
 
Light Gamer #2
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i3-6100 ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4/D3 MSI r7850 TFIII OC MSI r7850 TFIII OC 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G,Skill TridentX OCZ Vector 150 TPC-612 Windows 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G105 Rosewill Capstone 550M HAF XB M570 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 860K MSI A88X-G45 MSI GTX 460 G.Skill RipjawsZ 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
PNY Optima Hyper T4 Windows 10 Devastator 2 
PowerCase
Rosewill Valens DIYPC Ranger-R4-R 
  hide details  
Reply
Light Gamer #1
(12 items)
 
Light Gamer #2
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i3-6100 ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4/D3 MSI r7850 TFIII OC MSI r7850 TFIII OC 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G,Skill TridentX OCZ Vector 150 TPC-612 Windows 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G105 Rosewill Capstone 550M HAF XB M570 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 860K MSI A88X-G45 MSI GTX 460 G.Skill RipjawsZ 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
PNY Optima Hyper T4 Windows 10 Devastator 2 
PowerCase
Rosewill Valens DIYPC Ranger-R4-R 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 23
The review I saw Shows the 650 about 10 percent worse than a 550ti. The 460 is much better than the 550ti so I would get the 460.
Project Juniper
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
phenom 955 4.2ghz 24/7 msi 870a fuzion power edition 10+1 phase EVGA gtx 460 768 2x4gb kingston hyper-x genisis 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
seagate 7200 rpm 320gb none nzxt havik 140 H60 with dwood bracket 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
win 7 pro 64 bit hp 2009m logitech 360 rosewill hive 550 
CaseMouse
nzxt phantom 410 white  logitech anywhere mx 
  hide details  
Reply
Project Juniper
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
phenom 955 4.2ghz 24/7 msi 870a fuzion power edition 10+1 phase EVGA gtx 460 768 2x4gb kingston hyper-x genisis 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
seagate 7200 rpm 320gb none nzxt havik 140 H60 with dwood bracket 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
win 7 pro 64 bit hp 2009m logitech 360 rosewill hive 550 
CaseMouse
nzxt phantom 410 white  logitech anywhere mx 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 23
Just out of curiosity, could you have used something like:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/180882903492?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

that would allow the card to be plugged in via extension but the actual card( the SATA controller I mean) to be located elsewhere in the case? Might be a more cost effective option not to mention not losing the benefit of keeping the 460 and returning the 650.
Edited by EVILNOK - 9/16/12 at 4:24pm
post #8 of 23
The 650 was made to compete with the 7850, and performance-wise, they should be similar, give or take a few points/FPS.
Performance of 460 VS 7850 (Click to show)
nzXXXt
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K P8Z68-V LX NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G. Skill 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
G. Skill G. Skill G. Skill Seagate Barracuda  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD Salvaged from an '06 Compaq Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Acer G235abd 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry Reds Corsair TX750 NZXT Switch 810 Razer Naga, Logitech 6700, Logitech G500 
Mouse PadAudio
XTRAC Ripper XL  HT Omega STRIKER 7.1 
  hide details  
Reply
nzXXXt
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K P8Z68-V LX NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G. Skill 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
G. Skill G. Skill G. Skill Seagate Barracuda  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD Salvaged from an '06 Compaq Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Acer G235abd 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry Reds Corsair TX750 NZXT Switch 810 Razer Naga, Logitech 6700, Logitech G500 
Mouse PadAudio
XTRAC Ripper XL  HT Omega STRIKER 7.1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insan1tyOne View Post

I would assume that the 650 is indeed faster (or equal to) the 460. Being two complete generations ahead.

You assume wrong, what most people don't get is that most generations after a new architecture have their low end cards as rehashes of the previous generations low/mid range cards.

A standard Non-SE 1GB 256 bit 460 is identical in performance to a 560 non-ti (except lower stock clocks, they have the same core count and everything)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_650_msi_power_edition_review,15.html

A google on review benchmarks shows that if you clock the 460 up to a 560's frequency (460 OC headroom is huge on stock V) you get about 60% more performance than that 650.

I would honestly switch back to the 460 for playing games and return the 650
The Hybrid
(18 items)
 
Secondary
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k @4.2GHz Gigabyte Z77x - UD3H Gigabyte 1070 G1 gaming Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8GB 2400 CL11 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial m500 480GB Intel SSD X25-M MLC 80GB 4x WD Green 2TB 64MB Antec Kuhler 620 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips Brilliance 202P4 22" CRT @2048x1536 85Hz Asus VG248QE 144Hz Lightboost Ducky Legend Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX750 Raven RV-02 Logitech 502 Proteus SteelSeries fnatic QcK+ Limited Edition 
AudioAudio
Fiio E10k Audio Technica ATH-AD900x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H Nvidia GeForce 9600GT SLI 8GB Kingston CL9 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel 320 SSD Scythe Yasya Windows 8 x64 LG Flatron 
Power
Antec HCG 520W 
  hide details  
Reply
The Hybrid
(18 items)
 
Secondary
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k @4.2GHz Gigabyte Z77x - UD3H Gigabyte 1070 G1 gaming Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8GB 2400 CL11 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial m500 480GB Intel SSD X25-M MLC 80GB 4x WD Green 2TB 64MB Antec Kuhler 620 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips Brilliance 202P4 22" CRT @2048x1536 85Hz Asus VG248QE 144Hz Lightboost Ducky Legend Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX750 Raven RV-02 Logitech 502 Proteus SteelSeries fnatic QcK+ Limited Edition 
AudioAudio
Fiio E10k Audio Technica ATH-AD900x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H Nvidia GeForce 9600GT SLI 8GB Kingston CL9 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel 320 SSD Scythe Yasya Windows 8 x64 LG Flatron 
Power
Antec HCG 520W 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 23
The 650 was a little worse than the 7750 in the review at Toms ( 650 and 660 review). Just above a 450. So you might of lost a little bit
jeffro37
(14 items)
 
755 websurfer
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-2500k MSI Z77A-G45 EVGA 780 sc Kingston Hyper X Genises 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840  Seagate 750gb sata III Samsung 24x DVD-RW Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 pro Samsung 32" LCD Logitec 520 (wireless) Corsair TX 750 
CaseMouse
Coolermaster HAF X Logitec laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel c2d e7400 xFx 750i sli ext. Evga 660 sc Kingston ddr2 800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
WD 250 gb  hyper 212+ Windows 7 64 ultimate/ Ubuntu 13.04 Ultra X3 600w / full modular 
Case
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer 
  hide details  
Reply
jeffro37
(14 items)
 
755 websurfer
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-2500k MSI Z77A-G45 EVGA 780 sc Kingston Hyper X Genises 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840  Seagate 750gb sata III Samsung 24x DVD-RW Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 pro Samsung 32" LCD Logitec 520 (wireless) Corsair TX 750 
CaseMouse
Coolermaster HAF X Logitec laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel c2d e7400 xFx 750i sli ext. Evga 660 sc Kingston ddr2 800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
WD 250 gb  hyper 212+ Windows 7 64 ultimate/ Ubuntu 13.04 Ultra X3 600w / full modular 
Case
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › GTX 460 1GB vs GTX 650 2GB