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Hey guys I have been working on putting this build together for over a week now. I start buying at the end of next week so I would love to get any input you may have on the items. If you think i should change something or downgrade something i may not need for something else. I'm currently maxed out on my budget around 1,700$.

Here's the build(keep in mind the prices on this site aren't 100% accurate.


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.03 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($110.17 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Samsung S23A700D 120Hz 23.0" Monitor ($309.15 @ CompUSA)
Total: $1593.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-16 19:07 EDT-0400)

All help is appreciated, and +rep to helpful people.



Edit:
I do have mouse/keyboard/OS/Case covered outside the budget.
Edited by Hyperion. - 9/16/12 at 4:13pm
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that build is very solid. only thing i can think of is getting a 670/680 if you arent going to overclock that GPU, or if your monitors res is under 1920X1200.
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that build is very solid. only thing i can think of is getting a 670/680 if you arent going to overclock that GPU, or if your monitors res is under 1920X1200.

Yes ill be playing at 1080p, but i wanted the 7970 for the 3gb vram for modding skyrim and games like that.

Do you feel my ram and motherboard is ok?
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Originally Posted by Hyperion. View Post

Yes ill be playing at 1080p, but i wanted the 7970 for the 3gb vram for modding skyrim and games like that.
Do you feel my ram and motherboard is ok?

Your ram and motherboard are both fine, I would choose a different motherboard, only because the MSI one you chose is a bit on the pricey side. Its really all about what you want though, so if your happy with it, that is all that matters biggrin.gif.

This is like the 4th thread I have seen that you have created. Are you really that unsure about this rig your getting? I have posted in just about everyone of your threads and offered suggestions as best I can, and so have others. What is it your unsure about?
post #5 of 30
CPU, memory, motherboard, CPU cooler, and optical drive look good to me.

I would switch the SSD to a vertex 4 or a samsung 830. Both drives are a bit faster than the crucial M4 and they both should be cheaper by a few bucks.

The HDD you should switch to the seagate 1TB drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 it is cheaper and because it has fewer platters, it is also slightly faster.

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 ....This is a bit more expensive PSU for lower wattage, but it is a modular PSU, and the quality and reliability of the PSU is MUCH higher. Plus you only really need 600watts anyways, so 750 should be enough for any sort of crazy upgrades in the future.


Your video card would be a good choice but it is out of stock and over rated. Here is the thing though, the AMD 8000 series is going to be released in either Q4 (so December) of this year or Q1 of next year ( probably February), and then soon after nividia will shoot them down with their 700 series stuff. Is it possible for you to pick up a 7870 for about $260 (which will still run games at max) and then wait for at least the 8000 series cards?

Normally I wouldn't recommend this, but since you went through the hassle of picking out a 120hz monitor, I figure you would appreciate having frame rates that would complement the screen. Right now the rumors say that the 8970 will be 40% faster than the 7970 ghz edition. On BF3 at ultra, that would put your right on the cusp of the 120FPS mark.

So in this case I think it would be better to cheap out, bide your time, and when the new cards hit the market, you can sell off the 7870 and get the 8970 and really get the full performance out of your screen. And like I said before the 7870 is still going to max out your games at 30 FPS or above, so you won't be missing out on much thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Hyperion. View Post

Yes ill be playing at 1080p, but i wanted the 7970 for the 3gb vram for modding skyrim and games like that.
Do you feel my ram and motherboard is ok?

Motherboard and ram are good.

Also, I have a VERY modded skyrim and I am getting good frame rates on a 2GB gtx 670 on a 1920x1200 screen. And when I say very modded, I mean I don't even play skyrim any more. I JUST mod it. biggrin.gif
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Yes ill be playing at 1080p, but i wanted the 7970 for the 3gb vram for modding skyrim and games like that.
Do you feel my ram and motherboard is ok?
as long as you have a use for all that Vram, go ahead thumb.gif it is a great card
now, your motherboard i would have to say is a bit expensive, but it gives you some extra bells and whistles. if you want that, you should get it, but i prefer a board that is simple, and easy to work with. i dont go into the bios everyday, so most of the things arent going to get used more than 3 or 4 times. i would get the asrock Z77 Extreme 4, because it is a good overclocker, supports crossfire and sli, and is cheap.
as for your ram, i believe that is the best ram on the market, good choice!
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Your ram and motherboard are both fine, I would choose a different motherboard, only because the MSI one you chose is a bit on the pricey side. Its really all about what you want though, so if your happy with it, that is all that matters biggrin.gif.
This is like the 4th thread I have seen that you have created. Are you really that unsure about this rig your getting? I have posted in just about everyone of your threads and offered suggestions as best I can, and so have others. What is it your unsure about?

The other threads were directed at different aspects of the build, Besides the first one which i feel has died down as no one is posting in it. So i felt the need to run my build past a few more people to get a final say on it.
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as long as you have a use for all that Vram, go ahead thumb.gif it is a great card
now, your motherboard i would have to say is a bit expensive, but it gives you some extra bells and whistles. if you want that, you should get it, but i prefer a board that is simple, and easy to work with. i dont go into the bios everyday, so most of the things arent going to get used more than 3 or 4 times. i would get the asrock Z77 Extreme 4, because it is a good overclocker, supports crossfire and sli, and is cheap.
as for your ram, i believe that is the best ram on the market, good choice!

I have looked at the asrock and its not bad. The main problem i have is the no fan control on the board and the lack of 3 spots for cards. maybe i should give it a closer look, are there any reviews on it?

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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

CPU, memory, motherboard, CPU cooler, and optical drive look good to me.
I would switch the SSD to a vertex 4 or a samsung 830. Both drives are a bit faster than the crucial M4 and they both should be cheaper by a few bucks.
The HDD you should switch to the seagate 1TB drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 it is cheaper and because it has fewer platters, it is also slightly faster.
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 ....This is a bit more expensive PSU for lower wattage, but it is a modular PSU, and the quality and reliability of the PSU is MUCH higher. Plus you only really need 600watts anyways, so 750 should be enough for any sort of crazy upgrades in the future.
Your video card would be a good choice but it is out of stock and over rated. Here is the thing though, the AMD 8000 series is going to be released in either Q4 (so December) of this year or Q1 of next year ( probably February), and then soon after nividia will shoot them down with their 700 series stuff. Is it possible for you to pick up a 7870 for about $260 (which will still run games at max) and then wait for at least the 8000 series cards?
Normally I wouldn't recommend this, but since you went through the hassle of picking out a 120hz monitor, I figure you would appreciate having frame rates that would complement the screen. Right now the rumors say that the 8970 will be 40% faster than the 7970 ghz edition. On BF3 at ultra, that would put your right on the cusp of the 120FPS mark.
So in this case I think it would be better to cheap out, bide your time, and when the new cards hit the market, you can sell off the 7870 and get the 8970 and really get the full performance out of your screen. And like I said before the 7870 is still going to max out your games at 30 FPS or above, so you won't be missing out on much thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post

Your ram and motherboard are both fine, I would choose a different motherboard, only because the MSI one you chose is a bit on the pricey side. Its really all about what you want though, so if your happy with it, that is all that matters biggrin.gif.
This is like the 4th thread I have seen that you have created. Are you really that unsure about this rig your getting? I have posted in just about everyone of your threads and offered suggestions as best I can, and so have others. What is it your unsure about?

thats a interesting idea. I will run it on my video card thread and see what everyone says.

Heres the link to that if you want to check in on it.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1304298/building-my-dream-computer-need-your-vote-on-these-4-cards

Also the samsung drive i seen was more expensive with little gain. I am interested in the hdd, is it reliable like the WD drive? or as fast?
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

CPU, memory, motherboard, CPU cooler, and optical drive look good to me.
I would switch the SSD to a vertex 4 or a samsung 830. Both drives are a bit faster than the crucial M4 and they both should be cheaper by a few bucks.
The HDD you should switch to the seagate 1TB drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 it is cheaper and because it has fewer platters, it is also slightly faster.
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 ....This is a bit more expensive PSU for lower wattage, but it is a modular PSU, and the quality and reliability of the PSU is MUCH higher. Plus you only really need 600watts anyways, so 750 should be enough for any sort of crazy upgrades in the future.
Your video card would be a good choice but it is out of stock and over rated. Here is the thing though, the AMD 8000 series is going to be released in either Q4 (so December) of this year or Q1 of next year ( probably February), and then soon after nividia will shoot them down with their 700 series stuff. Is it possible for you to pick up a 7870 for about $260 (which will still run games at max) and then wait for at least the 8000 series cards?
Normally I wouldn't recommend this, but since you went through the hassle of picking out a 120hz monitor, I figure you would appreciate having frame rates that would complement the screen. Right now the rumors say that the 8970 will be 40% faster than the 7970 ghz edition. On BF3 at ultra, that would put your right on the cusp of the 120FPS mark.
So in this case I think it would be better to cheap out, bide your time, and when the new cards hit the market, you can sell off the 7870 and get the 8970 and really get the full performance out of your screen. And like I said before the 7870 is still going to max out your games at 30 FPS or above, so you won't be missing out on much thumb.gif

I was going to make the same suggestion about the SSD, but when I looked they were both more expensive. I see they have the Samsung 830 for 93.99 on Newegg, here is the link for the op http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pc128bww

The Samsung is better in terms of reliability. I actually just bought an 830, and im awaiting it to arrive, but I was in the same dilemma trying to choose the right one. I was between the Vertex 4, the M4 and the 830. The M4 was more expensive than the other two because they were on sale and the M4 was not. The 830 is slightly slower than the Vertex 4, but is much more reliable. When you look at endurance testing between the Vertex 4 and the 830, you will find that the Vertex 4 fails prematurely. Sean Webster, our resident SSD/HDD guru sent me a link to illustrate this fact. The Vertex 4 failed after nearly 400tb's of writing, where as the 830 failed after 4Pb of writes. The Vertex 4 is faster, but its not nearly as reliable.

Now when considering endurance testing, they are trying to break the drive. Pushing it to its limits to see when it will fail. I took this into account as well, but I figured I rarely see anything about Samsung drives failing, there are numerous threads about OCZ drives failing. Granted the Vertex 4 uses the new Everest 2 chipset, but its still not in the same league as the M4 and 830.

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Originally Posted by Hyperion. View Post

The other threads were directed at different aspects of the build, Besides the first one which i feel has died down as no one is posting in it. So i felt the need to run my build past a few more people to get a final say on it.
I have looked at the asrock and its not bad. The main problem i have is the no fan control on the board and the lack of 3 spots for cards. maybe i should give it a closer look, are there any reviews on it?
thats a interesting idea. I will run it on my video card thread and see what everyone says.
Heres the link to that if you want to check in on it.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1304298/building-my-dream-computer-need-your-vote-on-these-4-cards
Also the samsung drive i seen was more expensive with little gain. I am interested in the hdd, is it reliable like the WD drive? or as fast?

The Samsung is actually a bit less right now, considering the M4 is $99.99, and the real world difference between the two is minimal.
In terms of HDD's, I have seen way too many Seagate drives fail, my uncle has gone through 4, and I my work server has gone through 5 or 6 Sata drives, and 3 SAS drives so far. I have had very good luck with WD, but they tend to come at a premium. I have no idea what the drive models were that failed in either of the two scenarios I mentioned, and I have no idea how reliable the ST1000DM003 drive is. Sean im sure could help you out with that one.
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Motherboard and ram are good.
Also, I have a VERY modded skyrim and I am getting good frame rates on a 2GB gtx 670 on a 1920x1200 screen. And when I say very modded, I mean I don't even play skyrim any more. I JUST mod it. biggrin.gif

How many hd res mods can you run with that 2gb? i heard people were pushing well over 2.4gb when they modded skyrim.
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