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They believe 60GB is enough. The problem is that they forget almost everybody uses Internet now a days. Thats at least 3-4 people a house using it. Less then 20GB for person. You cant even Download a Modern PC game with that low usage. I said no to speeds. They are pointless. I would rather have 6MB/1MB Unlimited then 25MB/7MB with 60GB.

It's what happens when service providers want you to use there television and phone services, instead of anyone else's. They simple make the cost not worth it. Currently trying to make the move over to teksavvy long process of figuring out everything I have linked to my cursed simpatico account.
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i was with rogers and when i went over the cap the monthly bill would come out to about $300 not all the time but it happened, since then i moved over to teksavvy getting 28 down/1 up, and unlimited for about $70, i've had issues only 2-3 times, but has been solid otherwise.
post #43 of 72
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Opinions aren't news, moved.


Even when that opinion comes from the CCO of a multi-billion dollar company?
Edited by nathris - 9/16/12 at 10:06pm
    
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Even when that opinion comes from the CCO of a multi-billion dollar company?
Uh... yes. If Tim Cook said "Microsoft sucks", would you consider that news? Because that would just be trolling. This is another of those all-or-nothing approaches we have to stand by.
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I watch a NetFlix movie or two everyday and never get throttled.I decided to call my ISP and ask whats is the policy (my ISP is Qwest or recently Century Link).My ISP says they never throttle or cap home users.If this acrivity is going to happen it happens with mobile devices.
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This guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Shaw's base package has 125GB of bandwidth/month, but that 125GB is actually unmetered, and they don't charge for exceeding it (they might threaten to cut you off if you go way over, but I've been at twice the limit and they've done nothing).
They don't start doing anything until you get to the 50mbit/400gb plan, which is already better than the majority of American ISPs, and even then its not an overage charge. If you go over they'll simply bump you up to the 100mbit/500gb plan for the rest of the month for an extra $10.
The also offer a 250mbit/unlimited plan, which I think only Google beats with their gigabit fiber, and that only in Kansas.
Throw in free 40mbit wifi hotspots in nearly every public building in every major city and Shaw is arguably the best ISP in North America.

I don't know why there is a difference between Alberta and BC, or whether you hadn't been informed, but there were infact caps with Shaw. When I was living in Alberta, I had that 250GB "cap" (as you said, it didnt matter if you went over it) for two years. Then suddenly when the whole UBB drama was going on, I received a letter stating I was part of a "trial" (which I was never informed of and which was never mentioned in the three years I was with Shaw). They said they were lowering my cap to 150GB, and introducing charges for bandwidth used after that. Maybe they've changed it in the two years I've been back in Ontario?

Anywho, to the Americans who aren't in the loop, Bell and Rogers own most of the copper transmission lines in Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec, and most of the east. So we get two major options (Rogers and Bell), and any ISP who wants to provide internet services and use either of their transmission lines has to pay a "transmission fee". Therefor, we get gouged with whatever provider we go to. There is absolutely no legislation or organization actually helping out the customer, and these two providers have a duopoly and have been using anti-competitive practices for years. We pay some of the highest prices for phone, TV, and internet.
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This guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Shaw's base package has 125GB of bandwidth/month, but that 125GB is actually unmetered, and they don't charge for exceeding it (they might threaten to cut you off if you go way over, but I've been at twice the limit and they've done nothing).
They don't start doing anything until you get to the 50mbit/400gb plan, which is already better than the majority of American ISPs, and even then its not an overage charge. If you go over they'll simply bump you up to the 100mbit/500gb plan for the rest of the month for an extra $10.
The also offer a 250mbit/unlimited plan, which I think only Google beats with their gigabit fiber, and that only in Kansas.
Throw in free 40mbit wifi hotspots in nearly every public building in every major city and Shaw is arguably the best ISP in North America.

I don't know why there is a difference between Alberta and BC, or whether you hadn't been informed, but there were infact caps with Shaw. When I was living in Alberta, I had that 250GB "cap" (as you said, it didnt matter if you went over it) for two years. Then suddenly when the whole UBB drama was going on, I received a letter stating I was part of a "trial" (which I was never informed of and which was never mentioned in the three years I was with Shaw). They said they were lowering my cap to 150GB, and introducing charges for bandwidth used after that. Maybe they've changed it in the two years I've been back in Ontario?

Anywho, to the Americans who aren't in the loop, Bell and Rogers own most of the copper transmission lines in Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec, and most of the east. So we get two major options (Rogers and Bell), and any ISP who wants to provide internet services and use either of their transmission lines has to pay a "transmission fee". Therefor, we get gouged with whatever provider we go to. There is absolutely no legislation or organization actually helping out the customer, and these two providers have a duopoly and have been using anti-competitive practices for years. We pay some of the highest prices for phone, TV, and internet.

This sum's it up perfectly really, anyone that try's to start up here either gets bought up or pushed out terrible system.
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i JUST got teksavvy today (well yesterday now..its 1:45am tongue.gif ) im paying $70 including taxes for this...nothing "better" is available in my area. and i live in toronto >_> atleast i get unlimited usage...

i SERIOUSLY wish for higher upload speeds...upload speeds should be a non-issue for these guys to increase... im sick of only being able to get an upload speed of 1mbps max in my area. and i upload a lot when uploading video clips to my friend or to youtube. (lately i have given up on that since it takes too damn long...and i need my internet)

im hoping the same thing happens last time i got the same plan for this internet...i was getting 50mbps on a 24mbps plan consistantly...never went down, even during peak hours. i got this speed after a week of the internet being active.

btw, ontario doesn't have shaw. its just some cities. its not available in toronto...i think. i am sure it is not available in my area.. bell rules all of canada, rogers=ontario, telus=western canada, videotron=Quebec, and i have no idea for extreme eastern or central canada. don't know what kind of coverage cogeco has.

While some people do say that its not easy to give people extreme speeds to one of the biggest countries in the world, the amount of space actually being used in canada is VERY small (compared to USA). it should be MUCH easier to upgrade our networks than USA.
    
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I don't know why there is a difference between Alberta and BC, or whether you hadn't been informed, but there were infact caps with Shaw. When I was living in Alberta, I had that 250GB "cap" (as you said, it didnt matter if you went over it) for two years. Then suddenly when the whole UBB drama was going on, I received a letter stating I was part of a "trial" (which I was never informed of and which was never mentioned in the three years I was with Shaw). They said they were lowering my cap to 150GB, and introducing charges for bandwidth used after that. Maybe they've changed it in the two years I've been back in Ontario?
Anywho, to the Americans who aren't in the loop, Bell and Rogers own most of the copper transmission lines in Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec, and most of the east. So we get two major options (Rogers and Bell), and any ISP who wants to provide internet services and use either of their transmission lines has to pay a "transmission fee". Therefor, we get gouged with whatever provider we go to. There is absolutely no legislation or organization actually helping out the customer, and these two providers have a duopoly and have been using anti-competitive practices for years. We pay some of the highest prices for phone, TV, and internet.


Basically Shaw decided to ask the public for their opinion about the whole UBB thing, and had it overwhelmingly thrown back in their face, so they went and revamped everything. The old plans are still there, but there's new 50/100/250 mbit lines which work exactly the way I said. The plans in Alberta are identical.
    
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