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I need someone to compile the best system avalaible on your mind, but you must retain to the following pre-requisites. If someone can pull it off, I'd like to tell me why you think this would be the best system suited for this case.

1) Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
I prefer E6400, because I know I won't find the small 5% benefit of E6600, and I need to keep my budget's pricing as minimal as possible.
2) ASUS Motherboard, preferably the ASUS P5-B Deluxe
I need to know wether WiFi is worth the almost +40 dollars or not? I'm a DSL user, and I need more info on WiFi and it's uses and pro's, as well as it's cons.
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...AFC-C8Junction
4) PSU
A good PSU capable to support the ATI R600 when it comes out, or the G80.

That'd be it actually. I got the case settled (TT Armor, Black). I have the cooling as well (TT BT) and the video card is settled. So...fire those builds away!

P.S: This build will be for a mild overclocking. Not insanely high, nor a baby's walk. So keep it in mind when assigning gear. I prefer to pay 220 dollars for Solid 2GB RAM which will give me a good OC, to pay 300 for RAM I won't even overclock 20%.

P.S.S: If need be, for my games and 3D Model work, I'll go for the E6600...gah...
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post #2 of 40
are u sure E6600 has only 5% advantage over the E6400?? with the 4MB cache in 6600, compared to 2MB in 6400, i think the performance gain is more than that......
however, if u really cannot afford the E6600, i would rather go for E6300 instead, which is similar to E6400 except the clock speed.... u can squeeze more % of ghz out of the E6300 than E6400
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I would go with:
Crucial DDR2 667 2X1GB 10th Anniversary Edition RAM $230 ($10 more then your suggested price, but it is great RAM)
    
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post #4 of 40
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Well, I'm looking for a balance between budget and power. I do more gaming than anything here, ocasionally, once every bazillion years, some scripting and modelling. I know the E6600 is a powerful CPU, but, I'm unsure wether it's the right CPU for me.

Awesome, got the RAM sorted out. I saw a XMS2 Corsair RAM in combo with the ASUS P5-B Deluxe. Is it worth it, or does the Crucial wins this scenario? RAM is a place where I'm really picky.
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post #5 of 40
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Originally Posted by TheShehanigan View Post
Well, I'm looking for a balance between budget and power. I do more gaming than anything here, ocasionally, once every bazillion years, some scripting and modelling. I know the E6600 is a powerful CPU, but, I'm unsure wether it's the right CPU for me.

Awesome, got the RAM sorted out. I saw a XMS2 Corsair RAM in combo with the ASUS P5-B Deluxe. Is it worth it, or does the Crucial wins this scenario? RAM is a place where I'm really picky.
The Crucial will win def. The Corsair is a hit or miss RAM with the P5B Deluxe. The Crucial with the P5B Deluxe has shown to get up into DDR2 1000 + speeds. DDR2 800 is very easily attainable with it. Also, the timings start at 3-3-3-12 for the Crucial.

EDIT: Did you forget about HDD's??
    
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post #6 of 40
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Alright, we have a clear winner for the RAM. Next up I want to get sorted the MoBo and Processor.

P5-B Deluxe with or without WiFI? What is WiFI, and what are it's benefits?
E6400, E6300 or E6600?

EDIT: I might have to go with my ancient HD for a while. It's proven true and strong over time, and I'm on a bit of a budget pin. Might have to sell this rig or something. It'd IDE...so the ASUS will have to run it for now. :/
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post #7 of 40
I got the P5B Deluxe w/ WiFi, because I bought the open box mobo from NewEgg. The WiFi was only like $3 more then the regular Deluxe in open box, so I went for that. The WiFi has no real benefit over the regular Deluxe, except for it has the WiFi built in.

If you don't plan to try and get massive like 3.5-4.0Ghz OCs, then I would go with the E6300. I have a week 29 E6300, which can get up to 3.4Ghz with 1.4V. The E6400 is only different in that it has a higher multiplier. I know the E6300 has a multiplier of 7, so i'm guessing the E6400 has a 8?
    
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post #8 of 40
for mobo , i would chose one with the new Intel chipsets, so you can get high upgradeability
post #9 of 40
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So it's narrowed to the E6300 or E6600, and the regular P5-B Deluxe. Hmm, WiFi is just for wireless internet, right? Wireless DSL, modem, etc? No use to me if it's that, seeing that I'll be cabled for the rest of my life. XD

EDIT: Any reccomendations, Dual Geek?
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WD Caviar 250GB SATAII 3Gb/s 7200RPM SAMSUNG 18X DVD-RW Windows XP w/ SP2 Acer AL1706Ab Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor 
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post #10 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheShehanigan View Post
So it's narrowed to the E6300 or E6600, and the regular P5-B Deluxe. Hmm, WiFi is just for wireless internet, right? Wireless DSL, modem, etc? No use to me if it's that, seeing that I'll be cabled for the rest of my life. XD

EDIT: Any reccomendations, Dual Geek?
Yes, WiFi is just wireless internet. Even though the E6600 does have the 2Mb more Cache and a high multiplier, the E6300 has shown to make up for the less cache with a high clock speed. If you are occasionally doing the modeling and stuff, I would just got with the E6300. It can OC to make up for the 2Mb less cache and still be more affordable then the E6600.

EDIT: WHAT ABOUT HDD'S?
    
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