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I will be overclocking a 3570k to 4.5ghz max.And i wont use SLI or CrossFire.
The one thing i noticed is that the ASRock has a better sound chip.
Please tell me which board is the better one.
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With $15 difference on newegg I would take asrock.
1. 282 feedback vs 56
2. DDR3 2800+ capable, means more chances to get stable overclock
3. 2x PCI Express 3.0 for resale value
4. sound chip as you said.
5. inch smaller
 
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Can't say much about ud3h, but my Extreme 4 took quite a beating from my inexperienced attempt at installation(first PC) and still runs like a champ. I really like the board, the 7.1 included HD audio(with Realtek driver) is pretty nice and the 2 extra SATAIII port is neat as well. Claims that this board is flimsy or the VRM stinks is largely unfounded as according to reviews and my own experience it is very good at OCing & not a bit filmsy.

p.s The inch narrower Extreme 4 can be a blessing and a curse, it is going to leave you more room for cable management but you need to put in the Ram sticks(lay the board on to of its box and plug the Ram sticks in) before you drop the board inside the case & support the board on the back with a finger or two when plugging in the 24 pin ATX plug/20 pin USB header.

Extreme 4 lacks support on the far side of the board and might flex if you put too much force on it beyond the second row of screws(Ram slots, ATX 24 pin and USB3 header) during installation, but if you pay attention and do as I said you will be just fine.
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With $15 difference on newegg I would take asrock.
1. 282 feedback vs 56
2. DDR3 2800+ capable, means more chances to get stable overclock
3. 2x PCI Express 3.0 for resale value
4. sound chip as you said.
5. inch smaller

1. Terrible way to buy things
2. Does not mean anything. UD3H has/had world record in RAM overclocking
3. Both boards do X8 3.0/X8 3.0
4. Not deal breaker, but slight advantage to ASRock
5. Which is doesn't mean anything for any modern case.

UD3H has MUCH better VRM. You can LN2 overclock with it. Extreme4 VRM is weak, and according to some people they had issues getting overclock stable (unverified).
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I dont like the lack of vrm cooling on the gigabyte and passed it up easily when I was buying my new board
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1. Terrible way to buy things
2. Does not mean anything. UD3H has/had world record in RAM overclocking
3. Both boards do X8 3.0/X8 3.0
4. Not deal breaker, but slight advantage to ASRock
5. Which is doesn't mean anything for any modern case.
UD3H has MUCH better VRM. You can LN2 overclock with it. Extreme4 VRM is weak, and according to some people they had issues getting overclock stable (unverified).

http://sinhardware.com/images/vrm.jpg
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Hello.smile.gif
I'm a new guy here and building a new rig mostly for gaming,and i don't know which motherboard is better
I will be overclocking a 3570k to 4.5ghz max.And i wont use SLI or CrossFire.
The one thing i noticed is that the ASRock has a better sound chip.
Please tell me which board is the better one.

Tom's hardware.com Approved


From Vortez.net Review(Vortez.com Gold review & Great Value award)




LN2/VRM is irrelevant to what the OP needs(which is not an extreme OC) whereas Extreme4's lower price(by $20 on newegg, $134.99 vs 154.99) is much more relevant, and According to Tom's hardware.com / Vortez.net, Extreme 4 OCs just fine for what the OP wants(subtract .1Ghz from the 3770K OC to get the 3570K OC).

To OP, if you are into Extreme OC(LN2/Dry Ice Cooling, extreme over voltage, 5+Ghz Overclocking) get the ud3h, If you prefer the better sound chip & same basic feature for $20 cheaper go with the Extreme 4, neither would really disappoint you but I think for what you need Extreme 4 gives you most bang for the buck.
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LN2 is irrelevant to what the OP needs, and According to Tom's hardware.com, Extreme 4 OCs just fine for what the OP wants(subtract .1Ghz from the 3770K OC and you should get the 3570K OC on it).

If board can do LN2, then usual air/water overclock is a piece of cake for it. If both boards cost the same, Gigabyte is no brainer. Otherwise, ASRock isn't a bad choice either, but GA-Z77X-D3H is worth considering too.
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If you prefer the better sound chip & same basic feature for $20 cheaper

BTW I haven't seen any test of VIA audio on Gigabyte boards. ALC898 performance greatly depends on particular implementation. On UD5H it's really good, but it may lack on Extreme4. Just something to think about.
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If board can do LN2, then usual air/water overclock is a piece of cake for it. If both boards cost the same, Gigabyte is no brainer. Otherwise, ASRock isn't a bad choice either, but GA-Z77X-D3H is worth considering too.

Since reviews have shown Extreme 4 have no problem handling the OC level the OP needs, I fail to see how a board's LN2 capability means it have an advantage in 4.5Ghz OC. What makes D3H worth $20 extra for a causal OCer?
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BTW I haven't seen any test of VIA audio on Gigabyte boards. ALC898 performance greatly depends on particular implementation. On UD5H it's really good, but it may lack on Extreme4. Just something to think about.

Source?

To the OP, Here is an Anandtech review of 4 boards including ud3h and Extreme4, might help you decide.

Another thing I like about Extreme 4, you get a total of 6 fan headers, 3 of them on top above and to the right of the VRM, really help you when you have top/rear fans to plug in.
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Since reviews have shown Extreme 4 have no problem handling the OC level the OP needs, I fail to see how a board's LN2 capability means it have an advantage in 4.5Ghz OC. What makes D3H worth $20 extra for a causal OCer?
Source?
To the OP, Here is an Anandtech review of 4 boards including ud3h and Extreme4, might help you decide.
Another thing I like about Extreme 4, you get a total of 6 fan headers, 3 of them on top above and to the right of the VRM, really help you when you have top/rear fans to plug in.

Better VRM, less ripple, higher frequency with less voltage as a rule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDxFbAhu4Bo&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDxFbAhu4Bo&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fl1iFtOLKU&feature=plcp

Can't give you a source for audio, but using common sense and known examples we have:

An audio codec can be shielded to reduce noise, and not. Obviously you will have worse quality when it is not shielded (note I am not saying to what extent).

If we also take let's say Galaxy S 2 and Galaxy Note, they both use the same Yamaha DAC, but Note has better sound quality due to better implementation.

I didn't say in anyway that Extreme4 has actually worse or better sound, but potentially not all ALC898 sound the same.

Also they are many other factors. After digital signal (a typical mp3 file) is converted to analog everything plays a role. Gold platted plugs, good cables, traces on the motherboard itself, and etc.
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Better VRM, less ripple, higher frequency with less voltage as a rule.

Would that be significant for a 4.5Ghz causal Ocer that's price conscious, I highly doubt so, but that's for the OP to decide.
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