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There's another article here detailing TSMC declining Apple's offer.

Yes declining to have a separate fab for Apple only.
    
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iPhoners, when your prices go up, hopefully you'll establish the root of the problem. thumb.gif

Naw, Apple will raise prices for the carriers, who will compensate by raising monthly fees for their entire userbase, most of which are Android users.
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lol Apple using TSMC, this will make my day...

Yield problem already by TSMC, over capacity, and apple trying to get their own fab in there, why not, lets apple product get delay and then stocks start falling, seriously who would want to deal with apple when they sue left and right, they even sue supermarket that had the website name A.pl
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Apple will head off to TSMC eventually.
with AMD, Nivdia, and ARM. I somehow doubt it. TSMC already can't supply those company.
Nothing like a large investment to help move things a long.
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There's another article here detailing TSMC declining Apple's offer.
That was for a dedicated fab though
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Apple seem to be stuck with Samsung, if they really don't want to stick with them, they won't put up with a price rise. This is Samsung testing their power, seeing if Apple can even find an alternative.

I think the smartphone market is going to be worth more to Samsung than producing chips for Apple. They are fighting so hard for users that I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung saw it profitable to stop producing chips for Apple (eventually) and force them to go to an alternative. I don't think anyone else can keep up with Apples demand and thus, if Samsung pulls the plug, Apple won't be able to meet demand. Giving Samsung the upper hand in phone sales.


(Before I get comments that they are already looking elsewhere, they are looking but no one can really supply the demand, That leaves Samsung in a powerful position)
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too bad tsmc isn't as good.

This is true. In terms of advanced processes, intel is #1 with their fabs and samsung is #2. I'm sure apple wants out because they know samsung will nickel and dime them,
but they will likely use multiple chip providers.

Samsung is pretty much ahead of everyone else in terms of NAND production, and that is a large part of all mobile products these days. I'm sure both companies will do fine
without each other, but Apple does still have to buy many parts from Samsung. This is what happens when you bite the hand that feeds..
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This is true. In terms of advanced processes, intel is #1 with their fabs and samsung is #2. I'm sure apple wants out because they know samsung will nickel and dime them,
but they will likely use multiple chip providers.
Samsung is pretty much ahead of everyone else in terms of NAND production, and that is a large part of all mobile products these days. I'm sure both companies will do fine
without each other, but Apple does still have to buy many parts from Samsung. This is what happens when you bite the hand that feeds..

they also chewed until it bled, and refuse to change it (quoting NiN)
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too bad tsmc isn't as good.
How do you know that? Even so if Apple's contacting them they have to be capable enough. Apparently they've signed or are looking to sign contracts for producing Apple's future A chips at 28nm / 20nm, IIRC.

Nvidia and the GTX 465/70/80 Fermi series would love to have a word with you about TMSC.
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Yes declining to have a separate fab for Apple only.
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That was for a dedicated fab though

Is this not the only/primary deal made with manufacturers for parts supplied to Apple? I was almost positive that the dedicated fab was part and parcel to their production agreements.
    
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Nvidia and the GTX 465/70/80 Fermi series would love to have a word with you about TMSC.
Yeah, I know. But aren't mobile SoCs a lot simpler than those?
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Yes declining to have a separate fab for Apple only.
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That was for a dedicated fab though

Is this not the only/primary deal made with manufacturers for parts supplied to Apple? I was almost positive that the dedicated fab was part and parcel to their production agreements.
I didn't think it was, but I can't say I know for sure.
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