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Is it? It's the one in my sig, a Corsair HX 750.

Well i looked it up and you are very close to your max output of your PSU.

Guru3d recommends a PC with a 7870 - 550w PSU

+ 580 consumes @ 280watt

= 830watt

Now Guru 3d gives you some overhead when they quote PSU rcommendations + PhysX wont use 100% of the 580s performance so you might have a chance for it to run.

I monitor how many watts my PC is drawing from the wall with this $25 meter from Home Depot. here
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Well i looked it up and you are very close to your max output of your PSU.
Guru3d recommends a PC with a 7870 - 550w PSU
+ 580 consumes @ 280watt
= 830watt
Now Guru 3d gives you some overhead when they quote PSU rcommendations + PhysX wont use 100% of the 580s performance so you might have a chance for it to run.
I monitor how many watts my PC is drawing from the wall with this $25 meter from Home Depot. here

I appreciate it, thanks!
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Well, I was chuggin along in Opportunity when all of a sudden I dropped all the way to a hault. IT than climbed back up to 60 fps, but I was able to replicate it. The load on my 7970 would drop from ~60% all the way down to 0%. Would this be my 9800 gtx+ being the bottle neck?? I would think if it was that my 7970 would still have some load on it. Load on the 9800 gtx remained from 40-50%.
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The 9800 is bottlenecking the 7970. Look at a similar test here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbww3dhzK0M

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would that bottleneck cause my 7970 to lose all of its load?
also that vid has a 550 ti outscoring a 560 ti?
also also that vid is comparing a gtx 580 with a 8600 gt as a physx card. The gtx 580 is capable of running physx, the 7970 is not.
So my comparison is between running physx on a 2500k @ 4.6 ghz or running it on a 9800 gtx+. I guess I can download a benchmark and report back.

I'm having a bit of trouble accepting this - I've been watching GPU load while gaming (8800ultra / 6970), and it is nice and smooth, right up until:

physx dies. rickles, does your physx keep going after the pause? I found that if I don't monitor load, I can game for an hour or maybe two before it happens - can't seem to figure out why it does it.

If I could turn off cloth, I'd just run it on the CPU - it seems to handle it just fine, unless there's any cloth - even at extreme distances it causes problems, even if CPU load is under 20% (a similar scenario can be demonstrated with fluidmark with the multithread physx on vs off (why would you ever want it off? i think that's what normal cpu physx is, by the way).
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Yes, cloth seams to be cause of the problem for me too. I could sit in piles of green goo (have done it with caustic weapons), but the moment you get to an overlook with a bunch of tent flaps doing their flapping in the wind its GG drop to 0 load on the main card.

I could see how it could be related to waiting for the physx card to process, but I would think that my 7970 would still retain some load while waiting.

I have late class tonight, but I will try and get fluid mark and see if that can shed any light on the situation.
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So I'm having a bit of a problem trying to get this to work for a friend when using the second method (Hybridize).

My friend is using a 7970 and a 570 for PhysX (overkill lol). I installed his 7970 and updated to the latest drivers (12.9 beta.12.9 CAP 1.) I then proceeded to install the 570 into the system and updated to the latest Nvidia drivers as well (306.23 and latest PhysX). Before rebooting again, I ran the Hybridize app as admin, and then restarted the system once more.

Now the issues we are encountering are puzzling as I noticed that there is NO Nvidia control panel option whatsoever. I did a quick check in GPU-Z to see whether the 570 was being recognized and indeed it was. The 7970 had the PhysX box checked off as well. He's currently playing BL2 at the moment, so I made sure to remove all PhysX.dll from the game directory with the exception of PhysXExtension.dll. The game is running on high PhysX, and (PhysX) appears to working from the 570 at times, and not working from the 570 at others.



It's almost as if the PhysX load is being traded from GPU to CPU. The other strange thing is that when it does appear to be working, GPU -Z is showing NO load on the 570 at all, but it's obvious from the gameplay that it is working. Am I going crazy here or is this how this Hybrid PhysX thing supposed to work?

Once again, no Nvidia control panel is available to make sure PhysX is enabled. Any help/suggestions are appreciated.


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something isn't working right, you should have some gpu load, however I don't think I have the nvidia control panel either. I hope you get it working though... I would really like to know if hybrid physx is even working with a decent physx card.

Is anyone able to keep their frame rate over 50 with a hybrid set up?
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Sigh......I started the process all over again and followed "M1RAG3" steps to the letter and was greeted with this error after launching BL2. How the hell are people getting this to work? I've TRIED everything and no matter what I do it doesn't want to work.



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[*] Download latest ForceWare from nVidia.


So will the latest 306.62 work with the 1.05ff?
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To get the Nvidia control panel to show up again go into the Task Manager then go to services and services again. Scroll down the list until you see "Nvidia Display Driver Service" Right click on that, Go the Properties and under "Startup type" set it to "Automatic". That took me a good two hours to figure out lol.

In other news, I still have 0% GPU load after trying every method possible for two days now. When i try it on FluidMark I get 62% load on my 550TI. When i try it in Mafia 2 i get at most 7% load and the framerate is anywhere from 20-35fps. I'm getting ready to just give up on this sadsmiley.gif
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Try running as much as you can as admin, took a lot of finnicking around for me to finally see load on my 9800 gtx+... but I can't use it due to fps drops


Even then I really don't think anyone is benefiting from hybrid physx in this game, sure you get the goo effects and flappable banners, but for the price to get a decent physx are you might as well just get a decent nvidia card to run TWIWMTBP games. Unless you like min frames down in the teens.

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