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if this is the case,
than the improvement over BD is looking close to the "15%" expected after the THG trinity review

Trinity APU has better performance clock to clock, compared to the FX-8350 is simply not the same Piledriver Core according to what we now know. In practice this is not too surprising APU is AMD's main product, without any doubt it is a known fact AMD has invested a lot more money in Trinity APU then the Vishera Desktop FX CPU. smile.gif
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Trinity APU has better performance clock to clock, compared to the FX-8350 is simply not the same Piledriver Core according to what we now know. In practice this is not too surprising APU is AMD's main product, without any doubt it is a known fact AMD has invested a lot more money in Trinity APU then the Vishera Desktop FX CPU. smile.gif

Not sure where you got that from. The A10 desktop trinity that was tested was tested against the 8150, not the 8350. So it showed a 15% improvement at the same clock speed in 2 different tests against Bulldozer, not a different Piledriver core.
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post #23 of 126
Two questions:

What is that widget they are running and where can i get it !?

And what version of cinebench might that be ?
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Trinity APU has better performance clock to clock, compared to the FX-8350 is simply not the same Piledriver Core according to what we now know. In practice this is not too surprising APU is AMD's main product, without any doubt it is a known fact AMD has invested a lot more money in Trinity APU then the Vishera Desktop FX CPU. smile.gif

that's not what I was talking about, I'm just comparing a FX 8150 at 4.8GHz score to the "4.8GHz" 8350 (the clock of the 9.06 score has not been confirmed as 4.8GHz, but it looks like judging by what CB and CPUz are reporting), I'm only saying that the difference is close to the difference observed with 8150 (with 2 modules) vs the A10 by THG, but you can't really compare them since we are not talking about the same benchmark.
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Not sure where you got that from. The A10 desktop trinity that was tested was tested against the 8150, not the 8350. So it showed a 15% improvement at the same clock speed in 2 different tests against Bulldozer, not a different Piledriver core.

Trinity APU vs FX-8150 is 15% beter clock to clock, but the OBR FX-8350 ES shows only 5% better performance than the FX-8120 clock to clock.So the main question where is the missing 10% of the performance Vichera FX CPU, clock to clock we've seen at Tomshardware Trinity APU test? guiltysmiley.gif
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post #27 of 126
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Trinity APU vs FX-8150 is 15% beter clock to clock, but the OBR FX-8350 ES shows only 5% better performance than the FX-8120 clock to clock.So the main question where is the missing 10% of the performance Vichera FX CPU, clock to clock we've seen at Tomshardware Trinity APU test? guiltysmiley.gif


If the 9.07 Result is at 4.8ghz, that is roughly a 15% increase. I would forget the engineering sample. At least one benchmarker has said he got all the new AMD chips about 4 days ago, so I would expect complete retail benchmarks soon.
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I'm excited about that 9.06 CB result, regardless of whether it was at 4.8 or 5.0GHz.

Why?

If multicore scaling is similar to the original Bulldozer, that means that at whatever speed that was Vishera matches a stock Sandy Bridge (3.7-3.8GHz with turbo) in single-thread performance. That's pretty cool.

I'm glad AMD is showing off their performance. Helps avoid another Bulldozer scenario and shows that they're more confident about this one.
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Not sure where you got that from. The A10 desktop trinity that was tested was tested against the 8150, not the 8350. So it showed a 15% improvement at the same clock speed in 2 different tests against Bulldozer, not a different Piledriver core.

Trinity APU vs FX-8150 is 15% beter clock to clock, but the OBR FX-8350 ES shows only 5% better performance than the FX-8120 clock to clock.So the main question where is the missing 10% of the performance Vichera FX CPU, clock to clock we've seen at Tomshardware Trinity APU test? guiltysmiley.gif

Did you ever think that maybe OBR's results aren't the most reliable out there?
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God, it's like watching the Pentium 4 line all over again... You increase the base clock speed until you reach a new pedestal for standards and hope that's enough to even out the performance. >_> I am hoping they ditch this and re-work Phenom II.

Improvements of 10% each revision aren't going to do much else.
     
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Can not wait for the 5800k to be released. I want to mess around with one and see how much you can get out of an APU on current fab.
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