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Just ahead of the opening of the Fall Intel Developer Forum, ARM popped up in the news with a note that Intel still has work to do to improve the power consumption of its smartphone processors. It is a rather short note, but it is a reiteration of ARM's message that Intel cannot quite match ARM's architecture as far as power consumption is concerned.

This time, it is ARM's vice president of marketing and strategy, Noel Hurley, quoted by Digitimes as saying Intel's only advantage at this time is its huge monetary backing, while ARM has to rely on an armada of ARM chip makers to compete with Intel, including Qualcomm, Nvidia, and Texas Instruments.

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why do people wanna boast around and bring havoc upon themselves?
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Performance per watt is a lot higher on Inter so ARM are butthurt tbh....
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oh at least they have a salesman foot in the door,i wonder if customer wilk let this house to house vendor in?(probably not)a smartphone without an os?android?google dont need intel.arm does wonder.and arm can count on powerfull allies like samsung.wich is at the same size in nm as intel so no advantage here.worst.samsung also make those screen. intel will feel like amd in this field .arm just need to do nice publicity about what they support and their job is done.and with 1080i or p (cant recall wich)coming to 5 inch device?this wont help intel at all lol
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i thnk they are underestimating intel.. they have had a lot of practice with cpu's and i dont think us, the general public see their full ability yet as they dont need to show it< (marketing/ profit doesnt require it yet)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1307181/gsmarena-motorola-officially-announces-razr-i-with-2ghz-intel-cpu
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oh please.. ARM chips can barely compute anything serious other than games on a 4.5inch screen...
    
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oh please.. ARM chips can barely compute anything serious other than games on a 4.5inch screen...

ARM is used everywhere.... in routers, set-top-boxes, RAID controllers, TVs, etc....
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ARM is used everywhere.... in routers, set-top-boxes, RAID controllers, TVs, etc....

Therefore making them powerful somehow? They are excellent at power consumption design, but not at processing power (although they definitely are improving).
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Therefore making them powerful somehow? They are excellent at power consumption design, but not at processing power (although they definitely are improving).

I was addressing "compute anything serious"..... ARM is used in enterprise switches and router so that would be considered serious, would it not?

Generally brawny cores do beat wimpy cores.. most of the time: http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/research.google.com/fr//pubs/archive/36448.pdf

However, servers are not always about power or performance. They are about the right hardware and software for specific tasks(s). ARM servers do have a niche in workloads that have varying demands with many independent threads.... like running websites. You can shutdown cores completely as needed. A part of Firefox's website runs on wimpy Atoms: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2011/05/13/seamicro-servers-power-launch-of-firefox-4/

If ARM becomes comparable to higher Atoms like the D2700, then why couldn't they take their place in servers? Th wimpy cores proof of concept has been demostrated.

Calxeda, Cavium, HP, and Applied Micro are all developing ARM servers.
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Ya can always count on Ducky!

Power consumption and raw processing power must be balanced, depending on what you want to do. Most of us here just want moar power, regardless. We say why not slap on a battery twice or more the size! Not how the real world works.
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