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This generation's grandchildren will think that trying to drive a car by yourself is idiotic. Saddens me deeply.

I love driving! I wouldn't give up my ability to drive for anything. Sometimes I just get in my Mustang and leave just for the sake of driving. I don't ever want to see that opportunity go away.
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I can't see this happening, computers can't anticipate something to happen like human beings. They developed some prototype but a human driver is way better because he has reflex and can anticipate actions. It could work, but they would have to replace every car for this to be remotely safe. Otherwise, those automated cars will crash.

Computers can be 100% focused 100% of the time. They don't get bored, distracted, or tired.
Computers can see what humans can't.
Computers can communicate to each other.

Computers can anticipate actions better since they can collect more data from sensors and possibly other cars.
Human reflexes? Inferior operating in the 0.1ms range when computers operate in the .00001s or better range.

Again.... autonomous cars are being tested on the open road now. Today, they are driving and not every car is automated.

Google's cars have almost 500K miles logged so far: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_driverless_car

There are other companies doing the same.
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Would you trust your life to a MACHINE?
I sure as hell would not......especially if it is Windows-based. LOL!
You do already....

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It's true that we use computers in missiles, airplanes, medical equipment, etc. However, a virus infecting any of those systems would not be as disastrous on a massive scale. Think about it - if most of the people in the country are using these automated vehicles (which are bound to be standardized) and someone manages to infect all of them with a computer virus that causes them to intentionally crash... it's game over.
Automated cars would be awesome and would bring a lot of benefits... but there's always going to be that guy who wants to infect them with a virus and kill everyone (call me pessimistic if you want). As we've seen recently, a lot of companies (even security companies) haven't been able to protect themselves very well from even small organizations or individuals. If a foreign government wanted to create a virus, it would be even more sophisticated (take Stuxnet for example).
If someone infected every nuclear power plant.... every hospital... every military base... etc... blah blah blah. Then get offline and lock yourself in closet if you're scared?

Most likely each company would develop their own application. Any communication would be eventually be standardized. A virus would find it hard to replicate since the protocol should be used for read-only information only anyways. A more realistic danger would be spoofing.
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Me, my mustang and a 10lb bottle of NOS. That's my therapy. I do not need, nor do I want, some one controlling my medicine.
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I would NEVER drive an automated car. screw that. and I never drive cars with automatic transitions either. its stupid. I will only drive a manual. and if they try to make me do it, il move else ware and drive my muscle car.

I own a 1985 iroc-z Camaro, 350 v8 built from the ground up, by me. and a 5 speed manual trans from a trans am. I enjoy driving my fast car way too much. especially the sound of a true duel 3 inch exhaust. no way in hell will that ever change. I just hope im not on this earth when or if this happens
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Stick shift is going to be impossible to find in 10 years, lol.

whats gonna tow stuff then?
    
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Me, my mustang and a 10lb bottle of NOS. That's my therapy. I do not need, nor do I want, some one controlling my medicine.

This.
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This generation's grandchildren will think that trying to drive a car by yourself is idiotic. Saddens me deeply.
I love driving! I wouldn't give up my ability to drive for anything. Sometimes I just get in my Mustang and leave just for the sake of driving. I don't ever want to see that opportunity go away.

This.

Some people enjoy driving alot. I know every time I get into the car I feel so relaxed because I am in control of something in my life. I love driving and wouldn't give it up for anything either.
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whats gonna tow stuff then?

that and the fact any car enthusiast is going to be using a manual trans. I just taught my gf to drive a manual today, and SHE LOVES IT. she now likes driving. she never did before. she said it feels great having full control over the car at all times. but... she has now stolen my car. lol
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she has now stolen my car

That's something you may want to report to the police. Just sayin'...........biggrin.gif
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People seem to think this transition will happen overnight on all roadways or something. Manual driving isn't going to be phased out for and extremely long time from now if ever. It is only that autonomous driving will become the primary mode of transportation. I wonder if people that were equestrian enthusiasts were upset when cars started being mass produced talking about how unsafe and unreliable those early vehicles were compared to their horses.
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....flight paths ARE as congested as many roads. There is too much space between aircraft now because we cannot track them in real-time.
There are a few automomous cars driving today on open roads for testing. Las Vegas (with lots of pedestrians and motorcyclists) has approved of robotic cars so we will see soon.
What probably will happen is that only major highways will begin with robotic cars and eventually spread to smaller streets.
You trust yourself in car driven by inferior systems....

You know Duckie, I've been following the comments here in this thread for a while now but I just can't escape the impression that you get a bit too hung up about trying to compare cars to planes in context of autonomous control v.s. risk.

You should know that people don't take an automated plane to work with their daily commute. It's large volume transportation, with the decent amount of supervision on traffic; the plane is actually one of the most safe vehicles when it comes to death rates.

But this isn't a discussion about planes and cars. To have cars follow the same pattern on regular country roads it takes a whole lot more than autonomous cars and they really can't be packed close together. If something malfunctions and there's no room for evasion due to the density, then say hi to chaos.

When it comes to overall safety, while the robotic cars will be okay at pathfinding and collision detecting, they will never be able to anticipate as well as people can. That's a huge area there to be explored yet. And now what if the software
and or hardware fails? You'll in a sudden have to rely on built in crisis-control?

No way. There are some things that are better left up to competent people rather than 'robots'.

The other point I have a bit of an issue with is how you try to downplay the fun and desire for the need to drive and that people who love that sort of should just give up and forget and deal with the robotic transport. So much waste eh? Watching T.V. instead huh? Yeah. Why I am not driving now?

I'm waking up, writing up this post. Getting ready for work. Will get into the car in a little while, drive around the block and a bit of highway, the long route to work rather than the short route, getting to enjoy sume fun bends in the roads. Another time I don't drive because I play the keyboard. Yes, I love music and the making of tremendously. And sometimes, when I feel like it I go/ drive, opening the door to enter the "freedom capsule" and set myself free. It's an experience. You don't have to understand, but at least respect one's desire and value towards driving.

P.S. Musclecars, all muscles, no handling! Jap power all the way! (Joking thumb.gif)
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