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By 2040 I doubt GM will actually still be around...

They almost went bankrupt during the GFC and unless I've missed it, they haven't really changed anything they do so I expect they'll go belly up a long time before 2040 - same with Ford.

Being the visionary that I am (wink.gif), I'd say the only car manufacturers that will be around will be those who are truly willing to adapt to the changes that occur - instead of forcing the same crap down the consumers throat.
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post #182 of 299
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No I don't fly obviously. Don't plan to either and don't give a crap. Good for them.
Taking away something as trivial as driving is stupid, they should just make it harder to get your license, not attempting to reinvent transportation.

Ten years ago Electronic stability control was sci-fi, in the EU next year ALL cars must have it fitted to be sold new !

Take driving away from the drab masses and leave "us" to enjoy our relics in peace.

The negative is that "autos" might be allowed a higher speed limit, that us mortals aren't ?

But will any of us complain when none of us could afford the cost of fuel to run them anyway ?

I have also never gained from paying any car insurance, at today's prices I've spent £21,000 ( $ 33,600 ! )

As an enthusiast I do trackdays at local circuits, whilst that's still legal !

It's coming fast, beware of the future....

dunx

P.S. I'd rather not be driving in 2040 at the age of 81 !
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post #183 of 299
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To be honest, you would frustrate me doing that. My philosophy on the left lane in the US is if you're not passing someone, just move back to the right lane. On pretty much every major highway in the US there are signs that read "Slower traffic keep right", so if someone is riding your bumper, you're the slower traffic. It gets bad when 2 drivers get side by side going right at speed limit, and cars start stacking up behind them. In california they have laws that say you can't do that in fact, that someone has to be paying attention enough to realize they're blocking traffic from passing them and move, or they all get tickets. How 1 cop would pull all 3 over is beyond me, but it's a good law IMO.

You'd be frustrated by someone who's already going over the speed limit and passing the traffic in the right lane? The left lane is just for passing just about anywhere. I'm driving in the left lane, going slightly above the speed limit to pass the congested right lane... why should I go faster than I am because the person behind me has the same goal and wants MOAR speed? Aren't they passing traffic on the right too following behind me? There is no patience these days.

You know what, I think I support this, because neither way will driving ever be enjoyable again. Impatient people who use the "moving with the flow of traffic" excuse to justify their lack of patience makes driving a lot less enjoyable, and the thought of having a computer do it makes it less enjoyable. But I'd rather not have to deal with impatient people.

Keep in mind, you're talking to someone who used to flash his left turn signal behind people on the Autobahn to get them to move out of the way, but I wouldn't get on their bumper and make faces or other rude gestures, just a polite "hey, can I pass you?" turn signal, since passing on the right is ILLEGAL abroad. Since they pay attention, they see it, and move over, and don't feel the need to make a gesture back. But I can't say I'd trust people in this country to adopt those habits. As long as driving is a guaranteed right, people have nothing to fear in terms of losing it. They can be as stupid behind the wheel as they like.

On another note, as I get older, I realize things are becoming less and less physically/mentally interactive. Soon, people won't be playing instruments anymore, when synthesizers are perfected to the point where they sound better than acoustically recorded instruments played by people.

We won't be playing games anymore, as computers will play them for us. There won't be a need to butter your bread anymore, since the toaster will do that, and even fling them onto your plate that flew itself to the dinning room table, where the food is then chewed for, and even digested for you without even having to eat it worriedsmiley.gif
post #184 of 299
This will never become mainstream until they can implement smart roads.

Traffic junctures with yields and roundabout (traffic circle) that have to much traffic will prove to be to difficult for autonomous cars to navigate.

When there is too much traffic and people don't give way, the cars will stay where they are because it is unsafe to merge.
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This will never become mainstream until they can implement smart roads..
Nope, the opposite is true: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/09/ieee-autonomous-2040/
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It’s been assumed that the largest hurdle for autonomous cars is building the infrastructure. Not so, says Dr. Alberto Broggi, IEEE senior member and professor of computer engineering at the University of Parma in Italy. Broggi, the director of a 2010 project that successfully piloted two driverless cars on an 8,000-mile road trip from Parma to Shanghai, points out that two current types of self-driving cars will need less infrastructure, not more.

“The Google cars are based on very precise maps and they have sensing primarily based on a LIDAR technology,” he told Wired. “The cars that we tested on the route from Parma to Shanghai had no maps, and had sensing primarily based on cameras. In both cases, the cars have no help from the infrastructure.”

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Traffic junctures with yields and roundabout (traffic circle) that have to much traffic will prove to be to difficult for autonomous cars to navigate.
When there is too much traffic and people don't give way, the cars will stay where they are because it is unsafe to merge.
Based on what? If there's too much traffic and people don't give way today.... then how do humans do it if it is unsafe?

Traffic junctures with yields and roundabout (traffic circle) are not that hard to model. They are not that much different from a high volume intersections really. The only difference is that you and the road are at an angle.
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See: Idiocracy. thumb.gif

I got my license from Costco bike.gif
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post #187 of 299
I would be cool if you drive the car normal speeds in the city and then you enter a freeway and the card turns to fully automatic entering the other car grids without slowing other cards down and 100 mph + speeds.
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There will be different implementations and OSes (security through diversity)... but eventually a standardize protocol.
However, there is always a risk of computer viruses but we stil use computers for missiles, airplanes, medical equipment, nuclear plants, banking, etc.

Yeah but the systems used in those items are locked down, restricted access, far fewer in numbers and generally more difficult to get to than a system in a car would be. The potential for misuse could be very very high in a completely autonomous design.
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Haha all of these autonomous cars appear then some old lady in a 1980 cutlass pulls out in front of all of them and the world ends
    
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I just can't picture it.

I think of cars as I think of computers, I enjoy working on them as much as I enjoy using them!

Imagine a world where you're forced to do things a certain way on a prebuilt computer that you're not allowed to modify, that's essentially what this would be to me. OCN and dozens of other communities would cease to exist at that point, and if self-driving vehicles ever became mainstream so many communities of car enthusiasts would vanish because driving would become an expensive hobby.

A depressing world indeed.
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