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Cars haven't required even the slightest bit of physical fitness since the days of the Flintstones.
Honestly, one of the first scenarios I thought of when this came up would be the awesome opportunity to go to my car on a Friday after work, have a meal in the car, surf the web a bit, and go to sleep, to wake up on Saturday morning up in remote mountains or a distant city, whereupon I would step out of the car and explore something new amazing to me on foot.
I'm not sure how avoiding a mind-numbing sedentary activity like driving in order to do something novel and physical would make a person into a slow-witted fatty, but I guess that's due to a lack of creativity.

that's besides the point. its called doing things yourself and making your own decisions. and if you notice its very obvious that manual transitions are going away because people are lazy. and they just don't want to learn how to do it. turning the steering wheel isn't driving.
having full control over your car is. ie, a manual trans.

this is just another way for people to get even lazier, and the government to watch our every move. I just hope im not here when all of this happens. and im only 18 years old. I love technology, but not this...
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Ditto. I've seen nearly 20 close calls this week from people texting and driving alone.
I'd consider one if I had to drive 50+ miles dailylein stop and go traffic, though. Without being in control of the car myself I'd feel really nervous riding in it.
A robot car won't be able to detect a semi 500 feet away about to run through a red light going 80 MPH with a full load. <- I've actually seen this happen twice in person in the last few years, makes you wonder how the hell they got their license.
If I can just grab the wheel and control the car instantly it'd be different, if you're locked out I'd never buy one. Just how I'll never own a car that shuts off and locks the gas petal from you when you lose the slightest bit of traction.
Why couldn't a computer detect a truck running a red light?
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I'd honestly be pretty afraid of getting into an autonomous car that goes 120mph to get to school. It'd feel like a roller coaster ride. I'm not afraid of roller coasters, but having that experience every day to and from school doesn't sound fun.
Relativity and inertia....does cruising on a highway at 100mph feel any different than at 30 mph or 400mph? No.
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that's besides the point. its called doing things yourself and making your own decisions. and if you notice its very obvious that manual transitions are going away because people are lazy. and they just don't want to learn how to do it. turning the steering wheel isn't driving.
having full control over your car is. ie, a manual trans.
this is just another way for people to get even lazier, and the government to watch our every move. I just hope im not here when all of this happens. and im only 18 years old. I love technology, but not this...
Stop using power steering.
Stop airplanes from flying by wire.
Go design and fabricate your own car.
In fact stop using cars and go back to a horse.
When does your subjective criteria of laziness and control end?

Take an objective view....let the car drive itself and spend the tome doing something of value like educating yourself, trading stock, Playing with your kids, etc. Why would you want to drive when you could be doing more meaningful things.
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OK I doubt I'm the first, but I'm stepping in to call complete BS. Cars will not be replaced for a VERY long time. Many people (myself included) enjoy the experience. I'd make a class action lawsuit if the government tried to outlaw manned automobiles.
    
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OK I doubt I'm the first, but I'm stepping in to call complete BS. Cars will not be replaced for a VERY long time. Many people (myself included) enjoy the experience. I'd make a class action lawsuit if the government tried to outlaw manned automobiles.

Again, they wouldn't need to outlaw self driving. they would simply require self drivers to bear the entire cost of insuring themselves without the 95% of the population who do use the autonomous system subsidizing them. The more reliable and mainstream autonomous cars are, the more people would switch, the smaller the pool of people paying into the insurance industry, the higher insurance rates go up for self drivers.

I hope you like spending 10's of thousands of dollars a month for the privileged of endangering and inconveniencing everyone around you.
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Again, they wouldn't need to outlaw self driving. they would simply require self drivers to bear the entire cost of insuring themselves without the 95% of the population who do use the autonomous system subsidizing them. The more reliable and mainstream autonomous cars are, the more people would switch, the smaller the pool of people paying into the insurance industry, the higher insurance rates go up for self drivers.
I hope you like spending 10's of thousands of dollars a month for the privileged of endangering and inconveniencing everyone around you.
Don't try to force things on people, it makes you seem unintelligent. We wouldn't want that, would we?
    
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Don't try to force things on people, it makes you seem unintelligent. We wouldn't want that, would we?

Who's forcing anything? The people who choose to use the vastly safer and more efficient autonomous cars wouldn't want to be forced to pay into insurance that would only really be a benefit to the self drivers who would cause all the accidents. Don't force me to pay for your choices. That's commie talk!

But in the end yes. I would want everyone forced out of old style cars. The benefits outweigh something that is a passing fad of history. 100 years ago nobody drove cars and 100 years from now nobody will again. This will be a basic public safety issue.

Luckily we don't need to force people to stop driving themselves. The economics will do so for us.
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i drive too fast to like this
    
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Who's forcing anything? The people who choose to use the vastly safer and more efficient autonomous cars wouldn't want to be forced to pay into insurance that would only really be a benefit to the self drivers who would cause all the accidents. Don't force me to pay for your choices. That's commie talk!
But in the end yes. I would want everyone forced out of old style cars. The benefits outweigh something that is a passing fad of history. 100 years ago nobody drove cars and 100 years from now nobody will again. This will be a basic public safety issue.
Luckily we don't need to force people to stop driving themselves. The economics will do so for us.

Someone wants a Nanny state, damn.
    
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Ditto. I've seen nearly 20 close calls this week from people texting and driving alone.
I'd consider one if I had to drive 50+ miles daily in stop and go traffic, though. Without being in control of the car myself I'd feel really nervous riding in it.
A robot car won't be able to detect a semi 500 feet away about to run through a red light going 80 MPH with a full load. <- I've actually seen this happen twice in person in the last few years, makes you wonder how the hell they got their license.
If I can just grab the wheel and control the car instantly it'd be different, if you're locked out I'd never buy one. Just how I'll never own a car that shuts off and locks the gas petal from you when you lose the slightest bit of traction.
Technically said semi should've also been automatically controlled, thus not running a red light (if signals are even needed in the future).

Such a technology would require 100% of the vehicles in certain zones to be automated with no option for humans to take manual control and screw-up. Only once you're out of that zone may you control your vehicle freely, basically.
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i drive too fast to like this

^ Precisely the kind of driver I'll be glad can't drive anymore when/if this ever happens.

The march of technology is hardly embracing a nanny state. The people who oppose this are the sort of people who were probably railing against cars themselves when they were first invented.
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