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Originally Posted by grizzlyblunting View Post

Someone wants a Nanny state, damn.
No, the way this will work more or less is....
All cars will begin to have driver assist technology (like how all cars have power steering now).
The driver assist technology gets better and better so people get more comfortable.
The majority of people use begin to use automated driving.
Insurance actuaries will give major discounts to automated driving. Since the total insurance pool is smaller, the cost of non-automated driving goes up.
The majority of people will beging to be outraged at the accidents caused by human drivers.
The people will ask the government to restrict human drivers to back rods and dedicated lanes.

Saving lives, money, environment, land.... at least $1 trillion annually >> people who enjoy driving.


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^Precisely the kind of person I would push off the road on purpose. You may not enjoy driving but I absolutely love it. It's one of my favorite things to do. And yes I drive fast. Some might even say excessively (if 90 in a 70 zone is excessive). You're talking about taking away something that brings a lot of people joy and good times. What if I told you that you are no longer allowed to do any of your favorite activities? You probably wouldn't like that very much. I'm not worried about my ability to drive, it's the others out there that shouldn't be on the road in the first place that make driving dangerous. The people that don't pay attention to what is going on around them and drive 10mph under the speed limit. Those are the people that need this autonomous driving system. I drive as fast as I do because I trust my own ability to maintain control of my vehicle. I don't let things like phone calls, texting, eating while driving, etc distract me. I'm not that stupid. Crashing my Mustang is not worth answering the phone or responding to a text.
If your favorite activity kills or hurts 2M people annual and costs the US alone $1T annual.... Yes, we should restrict your enjoyment for the benefit of the vast majority.

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Yet another example of the human race becoming more and more lazy. Despite the fact that it may(and may is the best word) prevent accidents we just don't want to do anything any more. I know it's a cartoon but the Wally movie comes to mind in all honesty.
Your base assumption is faulty. You are assume that the endeavor of driving is worth something. The work and time spent driving generates some value.

I rather be sleeping in my car on my way to work. Why am I sleeping? Because I used the time not in my car to work, play with my kids, or go to school. Productivity increases.... imagine having another day worth of free time. Stop getting hung up on this one activity and look at it from a global/objective/economic view.
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Key word here is "need." I highly doubt something like this will ever become mandatory law. Too many variables.
It will be come law by the people when they realize how bad humans are at driving.

Too many variables? There are working systems today. With the improvements in algorithms, sensors, and processing in the next 10 years....

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We'll have landmasses left. It's the coastal cities and low-lying regions like the Netherlands and Denmark that will be inundated frown.gif
You mean where a good percentage of the world's population currenlty lives?
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You mean where a good percentage of the world's population currenlty lives?

Yes, there. The poster I was replying to was saying "if we have landmasses left," which we will. So yes, it will be a horrible mess in that many coastal cities and towns will be underwater and thus displace millions or even billions. But it's not like the entirety of all dry land on Earth is going to drown in a deluge and we won't have roads anymore.
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Yes, there. The poster I was replying to was saying "if we have landmasses left," which we will. So yes, it will be a horrible mess in that many coastal cities and towns will be underwater and thus displace millions or even billions. But it's not like the entirety of all dry land on Earth is going to drown in a deluge and we won't have roads anymore.

Oh noes.... Waterworld! tongue.gif

BTW... there are major flaws on the premise of the movie:
1) If all the ice melted in the world, sea levels would rise around 215 ft. There is a lot of land that are 215ft above current sea levels.
2) If there was that much water from melted ice as depicted in the move, it would have diluted the oceans enough to be fresh water and therefore drinkable.
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The argument that people shouldn't have automated cars because it makes them lazy is the most backwards argument you could make. I suppose we should all become Amish because technology invented after the 19th century makes humans lazy while anything invented before 1900 is ok to utilize. People need to realize that the technology they are used to growing up with is going to change, whether it is compact disks or automated transportation. This technology will improve travel times, roadway safety, and allow people to actually enjoy their car rides instead of being enslaved into them. The people that can't see these positives as cause enough to change are either too young to understand the situation or too old and have become far too comfortable with the status quo. You can tell by the comments here that some people are really entrenched in the familiarity of daily life, so much so that they can't pull themselves back to see that the big picture is ever changing and for the better.
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NO THANK YOU.
The last enjoyment I have is this damn world is driving my car around town however I like. This has government regulations written ALL OVER IT.
Hello software enforced speed limits.

Don't Worry it will get unlocked or may be even cracked.ph34r2.gif
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This right here. I have no idea why it's so easy to get your driving license over here. I practiced and worked for mine so I knew what I was doing. Other people around my town drive like complete idiots because they could care less. Example: in my area, all that's required to get your license is to keep a log book for 6 months with your learners permit (which they don't check), then drive around the block with 1 red light and 1 stop sign. No parallel parking, nothing. It's ridiculous.

It's the same way here in Knoxville. They say you need to keep a log of your hours driven w/ a learner's permit but they never ask for it. The "driving test" here consists of 6 turns, two red lights, a yield sign, and you have to park your car between the parking lines mellowsmiley.gif. And you're allowed to make up to six mistakes. Meaning you could use your turn signal for half the turns, run a red light, fail to yield, and the state would deem you safe and eligible to drive.
   
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Why couldn't a computer detect a truck running a red light?
Relativity and inertia....does cruising on a highway at 100mph feel any different than at 30 mph or 400mph? No.
Stop using power steering.
Stop airplanes from flying by wire.
Go design and fabricate your own car.
In fact stop using cars and go back to a horse.
When does your subjective criteria of laziness and control end?
Take an objective view....let the car drive itself and spend the tome doing something of value like educating yourself, trading stock, Playing with your kids, etc. Why would you want to drive when you could be doing more meaningful things.

I don't mean to be rude, but I built my engine and trans from the ground up, and I DONT use power steering because it takes horse power away, you very much do not understand car enthusiasts one bit.

same goes for power steering lol. its not at all computer operated. it works by fluid and belts and pressure in the lines. hahah
Edited by ajslay - 9/20/12 at 11:39am
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Why couldn't a computer detect a truck running a red light?
Relativity and inertia....does cruising on a highway at 100mph feel any different than at 30 mph or 400mph? No.
Stop using power steering.
Stop airplanes from flying by wire.
Go design and fabricate your own car.
In fact stop using cars and go back to a horse.
When does your subjective criteria of laziness and control end?
Take an objective view....let the car drive itself and spend the tome doing something of value like educating yourself, trading stock, Playing with your kids, etc. Why would you want to drive when you could be doing more meaningful things.

I don't mean to be rude, but I built my engine and trans from the ground up, and I DONT use power steering because it takes horse power away, you very much do not understand car enthusiasts one bit.

same goes for power steering lol. its not at all computer operated. it works by fluid and belts and pressure in the lines. hahah

How'd you manage that? Got access to a few billion in R&D and a CNC machine and several doctorates? Never seen anyone design and build their own transmission...
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I don't mean to be rude, but I built my engine and trans from the ground up, and I DONT use power steering because it takes horse power away, you very much do not understand car enthusiasts one bit.
same goes for power steering lol. its not at all computer operated. it works by fluid and belts and pressure in the lines. hahah

Did you design your engine and trans?
Did you fabricate the parts yourself?
Did you a CNC or did it by hand?
Did you smelt your metals?
Did you mine the ore?

No? YOU ARE NOT A TRUE CAR ENTHUSIAST!!!1!!!! !!!! rolleyes.gif

See.... that is all subjective.


Lives saved, money saved, gas saved, polution reduced, accidented reduced.... those are quantative.

Besides, should the world stop because car enthusiasts want to drive?
Go back 100 years: Should the world stop because horse enthusiasts want to ride?

My response is the same to both.... go to a track or trail.
Edited by DuckieHo - 9/20/12 at 12:02pm
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nature could Troll humans by making us live a real life waterworld?

fine, just pleeease no Kevin Costner doh.gif
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