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How'd you manage that? Got access to a few billion in R&D and a CNC machine and several doctorates? Never seen anyone design and build their own transmission...

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Did you design your engine and trans?
Did you fabricate the parts yourself?
Did you a CNC or did it by hand?
Did you smelt your metals?
Did you mine the ore?
No? YOU ARE NOT A TRUE CAR ENTHUSIAST!!!1!!!! !!!! rolleyes.gif
See.... that is all subjective.
Lives saved, money saved, gas saved, polution reduced, accidented reduced.... those are quantative.
Besides, should the world stop because car enthusiasts want to drive?
Go back 100 years: Should the world stop because horse enthusiasts want to ride?
My response is the same to both.... go to a track or trail.

I actually did, thank you very much. any car enthusiast doesn't mine ore, or smelt anything. HAHAHA. wow. this is what I used to build my engine:

chevy 350 small block. honed the cylinder walls, bored .30 over
flat top pistons from summit racing,
an eagle 400 crank (makes this engine a 383)
vortec bowtie heads, that I ported and polished myself
1.6 scorpion roller rockers
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edelbrock high rise aluminum intake,
edelbrock 650 cfm 4 bbrl carb, electric choke
LT4 valve springs and push rods
Hooker long tube, super competition racing headers, 3 inch collector, into duel 3 inch dynomax bullet mufflers

yeah I designed and built it. now what?

and yes, I did have to fabricate some stuff. like mounting my alternator, better motor mount lift for the headers, used auto cad to design a bell housing cover for my trans.
my tranny is a m49 out of a fire bird, I used professional racing grade gears that can handle up to 700hp. same with the clutch plate. (since it is a manual trans)
Edited by ajslay - 9/20/12 at 12:21pm
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I actually did, thank you very much. any car enthusiast doesn't mine ore, or smelt anything. HAHAHA. wow. this is what I used to build my engine:
chevy 350 small block. honed the cylinder walls, bored .30 over
flat top pistons from summit racing,
an eagle 400 crank (makes this engine a 383)
vortec bowtie heads, that I ported and polished myself
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edelbrock high rise aluminum intake,
edelbrock 650 cfm 4 bbrl carb, electric choke
LT4 valve springs and push rods
Hooker long tube, super competition racing headers, 3 inch collector, into duel 3 inch dynomax bullet mufflers
yeah I designed and built it. now what?

That's not what we mean by designing your own engine. You just put pre-existing parts together. rolleyes.gif

You are not a hardcore car enthusiasts. This is obvious since you did not model the thermodynamics. (See SUBJECTIVE!)

It's like saying you designed your computer.... no, you just assembled parts and ensured compatibility.
Edited by DuckieHo - 9/20/12 at 12:25pm
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That's not what we mean by designing your own engine. You just put pre-existing parts together. rolleyes.gif
It's like saying you designed your computer.... no, you just assembled parts and ensured compatibility.

your funny. id like to see you build an engine. its not easy.
and not everything was pre existing. for example, the heads. I designed how the fuel flows in my engine with the porting and polishing. the same with the intake manifold.

AND, I don't know any car enthusiasts that "models the thermodynamics" LOL.
a real car enthusiast is a grease monkey that gets under the car and fixes things themselves, builds engines themselves, makes them faster, perform better , handle better, and they do it for fun. because they get the satisfaction that THEY did it, and not someone else or some stupid computer. same goes for nascar, indy car, truck races, etc. you can never replace a REAL car. no matter how much you want something to drive you around for the rest of your life lol
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your funny. id like to see you build an engine. its not easy.
and not everything was pre existing. for example, the heads. I designed how the fuel flows in my engine with the porting and polishing. the same with the intake manifold.

...that's not the point... I never said assembling or building an engine was easy.

What I said is that your enjoyment of this hobby is not a valid reason why automated cars is a bad idea.

A subjective view of this topic is narrow. Take a look at the issue from an objective view.
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...that's not the point... I never said assembling or building an engine was easy.
What I said is that your enjoyment of this hobby is not a valid reason why automated cars is a bad idea.
A subjective view of this topic is narrow. Take a look at the issue from an objective view.

it really is a bad idea. its another way for governments to regulate the people. and for people to become even more stupid. enough that they cant do anything for themselves anymore. I do not trust my life to a computer. my car doesn't have one. for a reason. I took it out. I only own a desktop and a smart phone. because those are mostly play devices. anything computerized that could really screw something up I don't use.

idk, what could happen if a hacker, hacked those automated cars computers and made everything go crazy? or how much money does it cost to replace the cars computer? (thousands)

and then you have car enthusiasts like me that love and enjoy driving that never want to see the world come to this.
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it really is a bad idea. its another way for governments to regulate the people.
Government regulation in itself is not a negative thing. Get this bias out of your head.

For example, the vast majority of people believe that speed limits should be set in suburan areas. People desire it.... the cost-benefit make sense.... so why is government regulated speed in most areas a bad idea?


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and for people to become even more stupid. enough that they cant do anything for themselves anymore.
How is driving educational or productive? What is their to gain from driving?
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I do not trust my life to a computer. my car doesn't have one. for a reason.
Robots running on computers fabricate the parts to your car. If the tolerences are not correct, you could have a catastrophic failure during operation. So you are in fact already trusting that the computers than fabricated your tires and parts operate correctly.
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I took it out. I only own a desktop and a smart phone. because those are mostly play devices. anything computerized that could really screw something up I don't use.
Do you use a bank or credit cards?
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idk, what could happen if a hacker, hacked those automated cars computers and made everything go crazy?
You have been watching too much Die Hard 4.

What if a hacker hacked into a nuclear power plant and made everything go crazy?
What if a hacker hacked into a hospital and made everything go crazy?
What if a hacker hacked into a airport and made everything go crazy? (Die Hard 2!)
What if a hacker hacked into a military base and made everything go crazy?
What if.... what if we could prevent 1M death a year, save the US $1T, and increase US workforce productivity by 5%?
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or how much money does it cost to replace the cars computer? (thousands)
Economy of scales.... and standardization will drive down prices.

Besides, I bet insurance will eventually make it cheaper to fix it than not.

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and then you have car enthusiasts like me that love and enjoy driving that never want to see the world come to this.
My response to that.... Stop being selfish. Like horse riding today, there are always trails and tracks.
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it really is a bad idea. its another way for governments to regulate the people.
Navigating through highway traffic is one of the most heavily regulated and constraining activities already. You have to operate within a certain set of rules. Doing creative and unique things on the road is a great way to get people killed.
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and for people to become even more stupid. enough that they cant do anything for themselves anymore.
Over the course of human history, increased free time has led directly to increased specialization in increasingly esoteric things. People have pretty much always been just as stupid as they are now, but at least they're a more educated stupid.

Increases in obesity are more a result of the most unhealthy foods are cheapest to produce and have the longest shelf lives.

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I do not trust my life to a computer. my car doesn't have one. for a reason. I took it out. I only own a desktop and a smart phone. because those are mostly play devices. anything computerized that could really screw something up I don't use.
So you don't have a bank account? [edit: DuckyHo, you sonofa...]
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idk, what could happen if a hacker, hacked those automated cars computers and made everything go crazy? or how much money does it cost to replace the cars computer? (thousands)
Nobody has hacked my alarm clock. There's a computer inside of it. And costs of computer components become lower over time.
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and then you have car enthusiasts like me that love and enjoy driving that never want to see the world come to this.
By the time we see this come about, jetpack enthusiasts will pwn car and motorcycle enthusiasts so hard...
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We have HOV lanes here... If they were automated vehicle lanes, which were basically 120 MPH express routes, I don't know of any body in Hampton Roads that would rather deal with the congestion of Interstate 64.
    
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il take this discussion to a non computer oriented forum. because this is just idiotic. il go to the third gen Camaro forum and il post a link to here just to see this. should be funny. bye bye now.
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That's not what we mean by designing your own engine. You just put pre-existing parts together. rolleyes.gif
You are not a hardcore car enthusiasts. This is obvious since you did not model the thermodynamics. (See SUBJECTIVE!)
It's like saying you designed your computer.... no, you just assembled parts and ensured compatibility.
Putting components together the way you want them to be together to create something that is close to unique is as much designing as dreaming up a new piece of code. It's all subjective as you say yourself.. and not even that, it's all relative wink.gif

I don't know what you're trying to do in this thread but a lot looks like putting words into people's mouth and then argue them lol. I've seen a different Duckie before..
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