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These prices are slightly high for the performance we may get. I would price them $109 - $199. This would go hand in hand with the excellent trinity chips priced at $129 max. At these prices, just get a 5600k and overclock it to 4.6ghz, turn off the igpu, and rock a 7850 discrete card.

That is, if one was just gaming.
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Well im pretty much seing that we will get the same as bulldozer with PD, since i was looking how this A10-5800K does in single thread applications or games.. and it results that we get same mad.gif



In the past, we've attributed the struggles of the newer AMD chips in this test to their relatively weak per-thread performance, and we still think that's the case with Trinity. Notice how the dual-module chips like the A10-5800K and the FX-4170 outperform the quad-module FX-8150. The chips with fewer modules reach slightly higher clock speeds, giving them an edge in lightly threaded performance.

We had hoped Piledriver's modest IPC improvements would make a noticeable impact, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Compare the Bulldozer-based FX-4170 to the A10-5800K. The FX-4170 runs at 4.2GHz with a 4.3GHz Turbo peak, while the A10-5800K runs at 3.8/4.2GHz. Despite a difference in Turbo frequencies of just 100MHz, the FX-4170 remains faster than the 5800K. The A10 does achieve similar performance in a 100W TDP, while the FX-4170's power envelope is 125W, so that's progress—just not progress in per-clock throughput.

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post #303 of 400
We are seeing 10 - 12% better core performance with trinity over the previous series. That fact is proven in the numerous reviews that are available here at OCN. i would expect the same with piledriver. This Is a determining factor to my previously stated pricing scheme. I love AMD chips and will continue to buy them along with intel. Since I have someone who wants to buy my 1090T system at a superb price, I might as well play with trinity for a while.
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Well im pretty much seing that we will get the same as bulldozer with PD, since i was looking how this A10-5800K does in single thread applications or games.. and it results that we get same mad.gif

In the past, we've attributed the struggles of the newer AMD chips in this test to their relatively weak per-thread performance, and we still think that's the case with Trinity. Notice how the dual-module chips like the A10-5800K and the FX-4170 outperform the quad-module FX-8150. The chips with fewer modules reach slightly higher clock speeds, giving them an edge in lightly threaded performance.
We had hoped Piledriver's modest IPC improvements would make a noticeable impact, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Compare the Bulldozer-based FX-4170 to the A10-5800K. The FX-4170 runs at 4.2GHz with a 4.3GHz Turbo peak, while the A10-5800K runs at 3.8/4.2GHz. Despite a difference in Turbo frequencies of just 100MHz, the FX-4170 remains faster than the 5800K. The A10 does achieve similar performance in a 100W TDP, while the FX-4170's power envelope is 125W, so that's progress—just not progress in per-clock throughput.
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When the 8150 has the same turbo speed as the 5800k, but a lower stock speed, and it outdoes the 5800k, you have to wonder what speed these processors are actually running at. In all likelihood, the 5800k is running anywhere near its max turbo speed of 4.2, while the 8150 is in a higher turbo boost state than the 5800k.
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Ok, this time they really need to hit at least SNB performance or they're irrelevant. IVB is out and Haswell is on the horizon. Anything less is IMO a failure.
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This is really good news. It appears Intel will be the champion ONCE AGAIN, AS ALWAYS smile.gif
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Did you look at the other benchmarks because the 5800K is almost equal to a 4170 in their other game tests.

I don't understand what the 99th percentile tests mean nor the latencies but what I do understand is that the 5800K has some good improvements.

I hate the guys writing style, he treats readers like 6 year old children.
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Well im pretty much seing that we will get the same as bulldozer with PD, since i was looking how this A10-5800K does in single thread applications or games.. and it results that we get same mad.gif

In the past, we've attributed the struggles of the newer AMD chips in this test to their relatively weak per-thread performance, and we still think that's the case with Trinity. Notice how the dual-module chips like the A10-5800K and the FX-4170 outperform the quad-module FX-8150. The chips with fewer modules reach slightly higher clock speeds, giving them an edge in lightly threaded performance.
We had hoped Piledriver's modest IPC improvements would make a noticeable impact, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Compare the Bulldozer-based FX-4170 to the A10-5800K. The FX-4170 runs at 4.2GHz with a 4.3GHz Turbo peak, while the A10-5800K runs at 3.8/4.2GHz. Despite a difference in Turbo frequencies of just 100MHz, the FX-4170 remains faster than the 5800K. The A10 does achieve similar performance in a 100W TDP, while the FX-4170's power envelope is 125W, so that's progress—just not progress in per-clock throughput.
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Not sure where you pulled them benches from, but Trinity is just a hair under Stars in single thread performance. The fact that Trinity can clock up to 4.5GHz easily on air, is making it look like Vishera will finally lay Phenom II to rest. That is and was the only important goal for AMD.
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So do we have a launch date yet?
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off topic any one has experience with amazon warehouse?
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