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So where is AMD going exactly with desktop chips? they keep making chips that seem to do no better than two years ago nor improving with power efficiency. Sometimes it's like watching the Formula 1 teams at the back of the grid that rarely improve from year to year.
Apparently you haven't read anything on Steamroller.
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Apparently you haven't read anything on Steamroller.

Just to point out, no one knows anything about it for sure.
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Apparently you haven't read anything on Steamroller.

Nope, I haven't. I was never one for speculation and rumours. I just believe in facts and truth.
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Just to point out, no one knows anything about it for sure.
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Nope, I haven't. I was never one for speculation and rumours. I just believe in facts and truth.

It's not speculation and rumors. It's official statements from AMD.

There are four major issues with the Bulldozer architecture. Piledriver fixes one of them — clock speed. Steamroller fixes two of them — instruction cache hitrate and branch prediction penalty (via increasing instruction cache size and introducing a µop cache). Excavator will presumably fix the final issue, which is AMD's garbage memory controller.
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It's not speculation and rumors. It's official statements from AMD.
There are four major issues with the Bulldozer architecture. Piledriver fixes one of them — clock speed. Steamroller fixes two of them — instruction cache hitrate and branch prediction penalty (via increasing instruction cache size and introducing a µop cache). Excavator will presumably fix the final issue, which is AMD's garbage memory controller.
Steamroller gets a µop cache? Hooray!
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But what a company says and actually delivers is two entirely different things.
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Steamroller gets a µop cache? Hooray!
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Although AMD doesn’t like to call it a cache, Steamroller now features a decoded micro-op queue. As x86 instructions are decoded into micro-ops, the address and decoded op are both stored in this queue. Should a fetch come in for an address that appears in the queue, Steamroller’s front end will power down the decode hardware and simply service the fetch request out of the micro-op queue. This is similar in nature to Sandy Bridge’s decoded uop cache, however it is likely smaller. AMD wasn’t willing to disclose how many micro-ops could fit in the queue, other than to say that it’s big enough to get a decent hit rate.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6201/amd-details-its-3rd-gen-steamroller-architecture/2
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But what a company says and actually delivers is two entirely different things.
They're architectural changes. There's nothing to really argue against.
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It's not speculation and rumors. It's official statements from AMD.
There are four major issues with the Bulldozer architecture. Piledriver fixes one of them — clock speed. Steamroller fixes two of them — instruction cache hitrate and branch prediction penalty (via increasing instruction cache size and introducing a µop cache). Excavator will presumably fix the final issue, which is AMD's garbage memory controller.

Remember, they hyped BD and look what happened.

Speaking as a diehard AMD fanboy, one cannot forget the past.
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Speaking as a diehard AMD fanboy, one cannot forget the past.

Are you sure? humanities biggest trait is forgetting the past.
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Remember, they hyped BD and look what happened.
Speaking as a diehard AMD fanboy, one cannot forget the past.
The changes in Bulldozer were untested. Bulldozer's out now, and its flaws have been exposed. Steamroller pretty much fixes them.
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