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Steamroller pretty much fixes them.

Thats just heresay, for now.
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Thats just heresay, for now.

This. Unless you have an ESU you wanna tell us about there bro...
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Remember, they hyped BD and look what happened.
Speaking as a diehard AMD fanboy, one cannot forget the past.

BD was actually pretty good in many areas. It just didn't dominate like the fanbios on both sides thought it should to be considered a sucess.
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BD was actually pretty good in many areas. It just didn't dominate like the fanbios on both sides thought it should to be considered a sucess.

As a technology its amazing, as a desktop CPU its bad.
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BD was actually pretty good in many areas. It just didn't dominate like the fanbios on both sides thought it should to be considered a sucess.

Supposedly some AMD rep(s) were hyping it across some forums as well. One I can think of was OcUK.
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Surely you guys must realize that top of the line performance always comes with a premium... With the mentality you have we should all be running dual core SB unlocked pentiums.

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I couldn't resist that..and sharing something interesting I ran across last night:
http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/processor/a10_5800k/ Some of these scores may can shed a little light on what to expect from PD.
 
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I couldn't resist that..and sharing something interesting I ran across last night:
http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/processor/a10_5800k/ Some of these scores may can shed a little light on what to expect from PD.

bare in mind the a10 lacks L3 and has half the threads as the 8350.
Edited by Maurauder - 10/7/12 at 9:31pm
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So where is AMD going exactly with desktop chips? they keep making chips that seem to do no better than two years ago nor improving with power efficiency. Sometimes it's like watching the Formula 1 teams at the back of the grid that rarely improve from year to year.

Bulldozer was a radically new architecture from Phenom II, and a lot of things had to be started over, and a lot of shortcuts had to be made to get it released on time. One of the biggest sacrifices was power consumption, using parts that were easier to add in at the cost of higher power consumption.

AMD made a bet a long time ago on pushing HSA computing. They can't catch up to Intel the normal way of just improving their products, so they bet on trying something new. They couldn't do that with the Phenom II architecture, it wouldn't scale or work well for whatever reason, hence the need for a completely new architecture.
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In a few years both AMD and Intel will be selling APU's only, especially if the FPU can be offloaded from the CPU to the GPGPU. That will increase CPU output massively, from 100GFlops to easily over a TFlop. HSA will, most likely, become standard in a few years which is why Intel are determined to invest in APU's as well. When it comes to the CPU itself BD is a relative disaster (for those who constantly stare at benchmark numbers) but it's the base of future development. If you guys remember Intel also made a huge mess with Netburst but then released a reworked P3/Core CPU in the name of Core 2 and then Nehalem.
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Phenom IIs weren't meant to be multicored like that, they were meant to be quick and power wasn't the priority. Look at how much better the quads do compared to the 1100, 1090, and 1055s.

The 1100Ts and 1090Ts can generally clock as well as, or better than, Deneb.
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