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Lol, i had to do the title...everyone's doing it lol...

Anyway, like everyone is saying, it's Christmas time and as always, my parents and everyone is asking what i want for Christmas, and since i finally got my computer built and working (in the specs), I figured I'd upgrade to WC (seems slightly more future proof of an upgrade than anything else ).

So, I got a Maze 4 GPU cooler... that's what made me decide to finally work on getting everything together...

I'm just curious.... what's the suggested w/ a custom WC setup.... here's what i mean:

Swiftec Apogee
1/2" all around
2X120 Radiator
What 12V Pump?
Maze 4 GPU Block
Reservoirs or T-Line


Another question.... if i plan on doing some dremel work here soon, what do i do to cover up the sharp metal corners?

Thanks!!!!

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The only 12v pump worth mentioning for 1/2" systems is the Danger Den D5.

EDIT: Also known as the Swiftech MCP655
    
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Here's a decent set-up.............

CPU...Apogee........ Petra's Tech Shop Swifty Apogee

Or fstfrddy's handmade, very high quality.............. Stinger Waterblocks

Pump........ Danger Den :: Pumps :: DC Powered :: 12V DD-D5 Pump

RES........ Danger Den :: Reservoirs :: Bay Style Reservoirs :: Danger Den Single 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir

Or just use a T-Line, a res is a little easier to bleed and fill the only real difference, you might want to use a fil-port with it...... Danger Den :: Misc. Hardware :: Fillports and T-Lines

Use 1/2 fittings on everything but use this 7/16 Masterkleer..Easier to work with flows just about as well..........Danger Den :: Tubing :: Tubing and Clamps :: 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing

Fluid I use this, comes in other colors to........Fluid XP EXT Extreme Non-Conductive Coolant - UV Midnight Blue 32oz.

Clamps, Just use whatever kind you want to or zip-ties..................

Oh , You might want a rad to....This is the best one going right now.... Danger Den :: Radiators :: Black Ice Series :: GTX Xtreme Series :: Black Ice GTX240

This is a good one also but cheaper...............Danger Den :: Radiators :: Black Ice Series :: GTS Stealth Radiator :: X-Flow Stealth GTS 120 Black Ice
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The other one....http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=23&page=1 that one, not powerful enough? like would i have to have 2 in series to use it?
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Or fstfrddy's handmade, very high quality.............. Stinger Waterblocks

Pump........ Danger Den :: Pumps :: DC Powered :: 12V DD-D5 Pump
How much does he charge for his blocks?

And refer to above for the pump....
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The other one....http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=23&page=1 that one, not powerful enough? like would i have to have 2 in series to use it?
No with an aftermarket top they kill the Laing D-5 in flow...You just have to be extremely carefull to make sure it is primed before you start it up or you will ruin your pump..I like mine a lot..Here's a top for it...It's about the best top going right now..Look on this page for a link to some tests with it and other top's and also the D-5..........Petra's Tech Shop
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I payed around $135.00 for mine w/shp, they are extremely well made and built like a tank...fstfrddy makes them good.....See above for pump info...
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No with an aftermarket top they kill the Laing D-5 in flow...You just have to be extremely carefull to make sure it is primed before you start it up or you will ruin your pump..I like mine a lot..Here's a top for it...It's about the best top going right now..Look on this page for a link to some tests with it and other top's and also the D-5..........Petra's Tech Shop
Uhh... The D5 does 317gph. The link you gave showed only 210 gph @ 12v on the DDC-2. A 100+ gph deficit does not a killing make.
    
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Uhh... The D5 does 317gph. The link you gave showed only 210 gph @ 12v on the DDC-2. A 100+ gph deficit does not a killing make.
The 18 Watt Laing DDC has a 22ft head, with an aftermarket top they out flow the D-5 in a actual loop...Flow means nothing at free flow, the pump pressure is what moves the liquid in a loop...

Follow the link that is on this page to see testing result's, there are many more if you want to look Google for them....Petra's Tech Shop
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The 18 Watt Laing DDC has a 22ft head, with an aftermarket top they out flow the D-5 in a actual loop...Flow means nothing at free flow, the pump pressure is what moves the liquid in a loop...

Follow the link that is on this page to see testing result's, there are many more if you want to look Google for them....Petra's Tech Shop
OK, I'll give you that the PetraTech modded DDC does a bit better than the D5, however, the 22ft head you're quoting is at 13.8v, at which point, the pump is unable to start at that voltage. You would have to start the pump below 13v, then gradually add the additional voltage... Not exactly an ideal situation. In addition, The OP is looking for a 12v pump specifically, any additional performance above 12v is academic, and not really useful in this situation.

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Originally Posted by Petra from XS post
"Additionally, I fiddled around and determined that the DDC+'s will start at up to about 13.19V--to achieve anything above that, you have to start the pumps at that point (or below) and then increase the voltage to the desired amount (13.8V, in this case)."

At 12v in the high restriction loop, the PetraTech only manages 0.18 gal/min better than the D5. That's not what I'd call a killing, and definitely not what I would say is worth paying 25% more for.


As an aside, there is no 13.8v info on the D5 in that test, due to the pump ingesting a rock. Resulting damage did not allow any further testing.
    
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