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9/23/12 at 7:01am

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Originally Posted by ELCID777

Come again? If anything, the opposite of this statement holds true. The GTX 500 series, and the flagship card of that bunch in particular (580), was a definitive winner over AMD's then flagship card HD 6970. The 580 performed anywhere from 15 -20 % over the 6970 if I''m not mistaken.
Nvidia has not won the high-end this time around. Similarly clocked 7970's and 680's perform equally, and the GE 7970 is arguably the faster card overall.

And it took Nvidia 550mm² of die to do it. You're not looking at the whole picture.

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9/24/12 at 4:45am

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Originally Posted by SEEBEE

Am I the only person who thinks they should fix their drivers before making new cards? lol

nope

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9/24/12 at 9:46am

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Skipped the 7000 series, I'll propably skipp next generation as well, my 6970's are more than capable still.

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9/24/12 at 11:57am

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Originally Posted by Ghilly

nope

Are they that bad compared to Nvidia? And it havent gotten better since they stopped the montly update?

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9/24/12 at 1:23pm

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Are they that bad compared to Nvidia? And it havent gotten better since they stopped the montly update?

Judging by 12.6 and 12.8, it has gotten quite a bit better since dropping monthly updates.
Their drivers were by no means unusable before either.

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9/24/12 at 8:33pm

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Originally Posted by Artikbot

I've yet to experience any trouble with drivers.
I'm seriously debating on HD8870 or HD8950.

I've had tons of issues with AMD cards going back to the HD48xx days, through 58xx cards, and 79xx cards in various configurations including crossfire, without fail. The only one that has been "ok" is a notebook with a Radeon 5730 Mobility chip, and that's a bear to get new drivers to install in due to AMD's lockout, while my nVidia notebook is able to just download and install easily just like a desktop with the drivers.

I've also had configurations including 8800GT SLI, GTX 260 & 280, GTX 460 SLI, GTX 470 SLI, 570 SLI and 580, through now with what started as a single 680, went to 670 SLI and finally a single 670 to downsize my rig. The 8800GT SLI, back then, had some issues but nothing major and worked pretty well. Everything since has worked basically flawlessly for me, with the biggest "issue" being adding a copy/paste item to an SLI profile for Crysis 2 (both AMD and nVidia cards needed fixes, amd had no fix for months for CrossFire while nVidia took a quick copy/paste to stop screen flickering in SLI).

I also have, anecdotally, seen zillions more people in my situation than vice-versa (i.e. they tend to have better nvidia experiences than amd) both in-person and on forums, however this of course is a subjective measure.

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9/24/12 at 8:35pm

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

I've had tons of issues with AMD cards going back to the HD48xx days, through 58xx cards, and 79xx cards in various configurations including crossfire, without fail. The only one that has been "ok" is a notebook with a Radeon 5730 Mobility chip, and that's a bear to get new drivers to install in due to AMD's lockout, while my nVidia notebook is able to just download and install easily just like a desktop with the drivers.
I've also had configurations including 8800GT SLI, GTX 260 & 280, GTX 460 SLI, GTX 470 SLI, 570 SLI and 580, through now with what started as a single 680, went to 670 SLI and finally a single 670 to downsize my rig. The 8800GT SLI, back then, had some issues but nothing major and worked pretty well. Everything since has worked basically flawlessly for me, with the biggest "issue" being adding a copy/paste item to an SLI profile for Crysis 2 (both AMD and nVidia cards needed fixes, amd had no fix for months for CrossFire while nVidia took a quick copy/paste to stop screen flickering in SLI).
I also have, anecdotally, seen zillions more people in my situation than vice-versa (i.e. they tend to have better nvidia experiences than amd) both in-person and on forums, however this of course is a subjective measure.

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9/24/12 at 10:29pm

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20% increase... might be waiting for 99xx series or 780gtx/880gtx.

20% is not worth shelling out 600 bucks for it. might as well just threw in another 7950 and go cf. save money and get more bang for my buck. need to see 50% just like 6970 is to 7970 to see my money

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9/25/12 at 4:47am

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Originally Posted by jay2nice000

20% is not worth shelling out 600 bucks for it. might as well just threw in another 7950 and go cf. save money and get more bang for my buck. need to see 50% just like 6970 is to 7970 to see my money

The hell are you getting 20% increase? There is nothing but speculation at this point

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9/25/12 at 5:47am

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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667

6970 never had an issue with drivers... 6850 x 2 never had an issue with drivers.
I think it is too Because when I had 6850s crossfired (in my old rig) I never had any issue with the drivers. It never crashed. The only problem that ever came up was that the drivers on skyrim weren't written to support crossfire so it would only use one GPU and they fixed that within 3 days of it being released.
I can tell you this much. I only had one companies drivers ever brick a card and that was an nvidia driver release that caused me to have to buy a new graphics card. I like Nvidia. IF I see a good nvidia in the next gen or 2 I might go with them. It really just depends. AS a multi monitor user I really need the extra memory bandwidth.

Sweet! We've got the same crossfire setup! I've never had problems either, so I'm sticking with AMD for a while.

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