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Not sure why I cannot find this thread on this site, it is old story. I downloaded this program, but stuck on starting Folding@home. Maybe someone will be more lucky. Post if you know something more updated.

SOURCE
FAHbench_v12.zip.

UPDATE
expand on Musky's benchmark tool
Edited by ASSSETS - 9/22/12 at 9:54am
 
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Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but from the looks of this tool, it only runs a single frames of Work Units which means the entire work unit is discarded afterwards.  We at OCN don't advocate this.

 

If it is using some sort of Dummy Work Unit then okay, but if it is destroying perfectly good active work units then I would advise not using this tool.

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As I understand it should fold WU in folder provided with tool. Maybe it is safer to try it on some non folding rig to find how it works. I think we can use this app to find how your overclock affects folding. I could not find any guide how to use it. I sent message to musky to fund out about status of project.
Edited by ASSSETS - 9/23/12 at 8:25pm
 
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As I understand it should fold WU in folder provided with tool. Maybe it is safer to try it on some non folding rig to find how it works. I think we can use this app to find how your overclock affects folding. I could not find any guide how to use it. I sent message to musky to fund out about status of project.

 

Okay, keep me posted with the details.

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Here is what I got from musky
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASSSETS
Hi,
I found your app and tried it, did not work for me. Do you have any updates on this app and instruction how to run it. (picture of log included)


Quote:
Originally Posted by musky
It appears that sometime over the last year+, Stanford changed the download link to a different version and to a .zip file instead of an .exe file. The script as it is will not work now. If I get a chance, I'll re-write it to get the correct download.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ASSSETS
Thank you for reply,
Would it be easier to run it in folder, without connecting to internet. Use client and working units placed in folder. It is hard to keep up with all changes. Mostly what I'm interesting is TPF difference after overclock.
Thank you for your time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by musky
The problem is the EULA - I can't distribute the Folding@Home client, so you have to download it separately. Part of this script automated that download. Unfortunately, this requires maintenance when something changes. The change here actually happened a long time ago, but no one noticed until now.


Not sure if it will happen any time soon.
 
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Here is what I got from musky
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASSSETS
Hi,
I found your app and tried it, did not work for me. Do you have any updates on this app and instruction how to run it. (picture of log included)


Quote:
Originally Posted by musky
It appears that sometime over the last year+, Stanford changed the download link to a different version and to a .zip file instead of an .exe file. The script as it is will not work now. If I get a chance, I'll re-write it to get the correct download.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ASSSETS
Thank you for reply,
Would it be easier to run it in folder, without connecting to internet. Use client and working units placed in folder. It is hard to keep up with all changes. Mostly what I'm interesting is TPF difference after overclock.
Thank you for your time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by musky
The problem is the EULA - I can't distribute the Folding@Home client, so you have to download it separately. Part of this script automated that download. Unfortunately, this requires maintenance when something changes. The change here actually happened a long time ago, but no one noticed until now.


Not sure if it will happen any time soon.

 

Well to me it sounds like the benchmark is actually "wasting" perfectly good work units in which case it goes against OCN's Folding Team's vision.

 

If anyone wants to investigate this more feel free.  As it stands, OCN's Folding team does not support this type of tool if it works like I've mentioned.

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Nah, I just talked to Musky on IRC and the tool never actually downloaded real projects. It only downloaded the clients and cores. The app currently doesn't work though, and Musky does state there is a bit of a grey area due to the tool including old projects that are currently not assigned which means don't try and turn in the work. I would just pass on trying to use this, and do the real research. If you use HFM.net, it has a work unit history viewer where you can view actual PPD etc. 

 

What were you trying to accomplish by using this tool though?


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Nah, I just talked to Musky on IRC and the tool never actually downloaded real projects. It only downloaded the clients and cores. The app currently doesn't work though, and Musky does state there is a bit of a grey area due to the tool including old projects that are currently not assigned which means don't try and turn in the work. I would just pass on trying to use this, and do the real research. If you use HFM.net, it has a work unit history viewer where you can view actual PPD etc. 

What were you trying to accomplish by using this tool though?

Yeah this. All units respond differently to overclocking. There are units that drop 1s in TPF after a 50MHz bump and result in 3k PPD gain. Some units only gain a couple hundreds more by the same OC.

Just bench with HFM.
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Some clarification:

The work units included with this tool were all completed and returned back when they came out. I just kept the data around after I completed them. No live work units were wasted.

O/C testing was the primary purpose of this tool. It is a way to test folding stability without the risk of ruining valid WUs. It also gave us a way to compare performance against different machines or on a single machine with new tweaks. Running the same frames for the same WU is a much better comparison than running different WUs of the same type. Having the SMP unit allowed you to know within a couple of minutes if a given tweak helped or hurt F@H performance. It was quite handy at the time.

Once bigadv folding support was returned to Linux, this tool became obsolete for me at least, so I have not maintained it. I also don't have anything seriously overclocked now, so an automated version of this for Linux wasn't necessary. That leaves us where we are now - this tool has been broken since the 6.34 client came out and I really hadn't planned on fixing it.
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