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Recently I decided to check out what's under my 7800GS's HSF, to see if I could improve my overclock at all. My system used to spontaniously reboot when I overclocked the memory past 1400mhz, so I wanted to see what was cooling it.

The 7800GS has some weird silicon netting on the memory. I saw this cloth-like substance poking out from under the heatsink, but forgot to snap a shot.

I removed the heatsink, and all the net stuff fell right off. Despite it being intended to cool the memory, the lack of contact means it was never connecting or cooling anything. I tossed it all away into the garbage.

Just look at the horrible gunk they put on the core!...


Got that cleaned up fast.


Next I applied AS5, and here's what I learned(this is the important part for anyone with a 7800GS)

-My stock cooler makes near perfect contact with the GPU. Put as little AS5 on as possible. Smear a light layer over the core...I used part of a ziploc bag for that...seeing almost totally through it is fine.

-The PCIe -> AGP bridge chip has a bit of space between the heatsink and its core. You'll need to put a bit extra on for it to make proper contact.

The memory...well, that blew me away. The memory doesn't need cooling. Just for laughs I didn't apply anything, and it ran fine at stock speeds(1250mhz). Then I applied AS5, and discovered something else shocking.

The memory has 1-2mm between it and the heatsink. With the cloth stuff gone and the heatsink reattached, it became clear there was enough room to stick a knife between the heatsink/backplate and GDDR3 memory chips. I had to empty about a half-tube of AS5 on them to make contact with all 8 of the chips!

Now I'm happily sitting in windows with the memory running fine at 1500mhz. It runs 3Dmark06 over and over, and is happy to finally have cooling. I tested ATI Tool all the way up to 1575mhz on the artifact test.

Go me! Now I know why all you other folks like aftermarket cooling...you get to do it right and fix the mistakes the card-machine made.

     
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Nice job. So do you have a knife stuck in your video card with AS5 or just tons of AS5? I think a good butter knife in there might help the cooling process.
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Thermal tape might work better than 1/8" of goo.
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Agreed.

The ATI X1900 is exactly the same in this way. A pretty thick patch of some thermal material between the cooler and the RAM sinks.

That AS5 will work too much as an isolator now. Get some thermal tape or something, or put the stuff back on that came with it (since I am guessing it was thermal tape)
    
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I don't know what it was...but it looked like netting, and was easily ripped apart. As I stated, it fell off, so I don't think it was helping really.

Can't argue with results. The memory stays cool now, and there's no more reboots at high memory mhz.

@Malaziel: No butter knife currently inbetween. When I said knife I actually meant one of those thick steak knives that doesn't bend...if it were butter knives I'd probably have to use two.

@Chozart: Let me put it this way...before I loaded it up with AS5, I could see through the gap.

So, what's best; no AS5, or tons of AS5? Results say tons of AS5.
     
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My 6800XT had that netting crap in between its cooler too. Since i ditched the stock cooler and used the VF700, i used the RAMsinks that came with it. I stuck it on with AS5, but they're directly on. I dunno if a thick layer of AS5 is better than thermal tape, but AS5 is supposed to be a good conductor anyway, right? So if you can get that between, then i don't see why not...

Edit: Grrr i want that card!
post #7 of 13
Yeah, it's better than air

AS5 is a decent thermal conductor obviously... and the temps prove it.

When I installed the VF900, I scraped off that tape from the ramsinks and stuck them with a little bit of AS5 on the ram chips. Works for me AS5 is pretty sticky
    
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I'm currently planning ways to get my core mhz higher, since the PCIe -> AGP bridge chip is limiting that.

In 3Dmark06, there is 0 difference in score between 1400mhz and 1500mhz memory. It's pretty rare to have it so the memory on a card isn't bottlenecking the GPU, so...must push GPU farther!
     
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with all due respect to (compared to me, you guys are the professionals). What is ASS? (other then what I sit with..... and usually is considered my backside, etc..... I'm presuming it's a thermal gel of a sorts that can be used inbetween the heat source and a heatsink, etc. However i'm at a loss....

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It's AS5, not the synonym of your butt

It's indeed a thermal paste. Here ya go:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...NE&N=0&Ntk=all
    
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