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LOL? oh my god, 0.7" along the diagonal more? That's just... that's just too big. How would I be able to fit it in my skinny jeans? Buy a pair of Levi's 501s. A Galaxy Note fits in those pockets no issue. As far as I'm concerned, men shouldn't wear anything tighter than 501s. I'm 6'3" 180 lbs with a 30" waist so it's not like I'm some huge dude either. Time for some big boy pants.
Yes. How dare he have a different preference than you. You tell him.
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I'm pretty sure they do. 99.99%. Correct me if wrong though.
Well they don't. Samsung fabs the chips. That's it. Apple's engineering team designs it.
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Oh. Wasnt aware of that
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Yes. How dare he have a different preference than you. You tell him.

Not so much about differing preferences as it is making a 0.7" into a mile
    
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Oh. Wasnt aware of that

It's not like other posters already told you that....or a quick google search would have.
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It's now entirely clear that Apple's industrial design and engineering teams are at the top of their game. On the other hand, I've no idea what the hell their software teams are doing...
Can't wait for Anand to release some battery numbers though. It's nice for at least one company to advance the industry in terms of mobile efficiency.

another false statement
let's start from a5 shall we? 2x cortex a9+ sgx543mp2
cortex a9=arm design
sgx543mp2= imagination design
sticking the two together and paying samsung to produce it does not turn it into their own design(but thats what apple calls innovation anyway, rounded edges+rectangles anyone?)

now onto a6
unnammed core x2 @1ghz with arm7 instruction set
uses arm instructions, finally apple's own design(still relies on arm's instructions however)
sgx543mp3= imagination's design
did i forget to mention the only thing that actually topped other handsets was the gpu(sgx543mp3), which was not designed by apple
the cpu itself(partially apple's creation) got topped by a low end tegra 3(nexus 7) so honestly there isnt much competition in that...
 
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another false statement
let's start from a5 shall we? 2x cortex a9+ sgx543mp2
cortex a9=arm design
sgx543mp2= imagination design
sticking the two together and paying samsung to produce it does not turn it into their own design(but thats what apple calls innovation anyway, rounded edges+rectangles anyone?)
now onto a6
unnammed core x2 @1ghz with arm7 instruction set
uses arm instructions, finally apple's own design(still relies on arm's instructions however)
sgx543mp3= imagination's design
did i forget to mention the only thing that actually topped other handsets was the gpu(sgx543mp3), which was not designed by apple
the cpu itself(partially apple's creation) got topped by a low end tegra 3(nexus 7) so honestly there isnt much competition in that...

NO way man, didn't you even read the review?

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Yes I know that.
Samsung designs the chips.

back in the a4 days sort of, the a4 was just a direct copy of exynos 3 hummingbird..nowadays apple just buys licenses themselves, stick them together and call it their "innovative creation"
 
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NO way man, didn't you even read the review?
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ya, i did, about 80% of that review had to do with the gpu, yes a6 beated s3, but dont forget that optimus g won(unfortunately anand only included it in the more "real world" tests).
if you are referring to the browsermark score, let me remind you that mobile browsers are hardware accelerated, while performance is partially dependent on the processor itself, much of it is dependent on gpu as well

in either case, since anand didn't bother including geekbench scores from android phones, let me refer you to this
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/136291-iphone-5-benchmarks-slower-than-the-galaxy-s3-faster-than-the-nexus-7?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=iphone-5-benchmarks-slower-than-the-galaxy-s3-faster-than-the-nexus-7&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

there was another thread on iphone 5 geekbench a while back, with iphone 5 also scoring around 1600 @ geekbench while nexus 7 did 1590, well within the margins of error if you ask me(less than 1% error)

what's my point? A6 is not exactly apple's own creation, it relies on arm's instructions and imagination's powervr. let me remind you again the only thing that pulled iphone 5 into 2nd place in those benchmarks is the sgx543mp3, which isnt apple's design.
 
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Apple's engeneering team? More like Samsung's/

Still talking about the A6 chip, right?

Designer =/= manufacturer
Yes I know that.

Samsung designs the chips.

Samsung designed the CPUs in the 4 and 4S; the 5's is 100% in-house however.
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Samsung designed the CPUs in the 4 and 4S; the 5's is 100% in-house however.

wrong, samsung designed the a4 and manufactured it for apple(ip4), the a5 in 4s was apple buying licenses and sticking stuff together(which isnt exactly designing)
to sum it up
iphone 4:a4 samsung design
iphone 4s:a5 arm and imagination design, apple bought license and ducttape designed it
iphone 5: unnammed arm core+ imagination design, apple reused sgx543mp license and used it with their own design(that uses the arm7 instruction, which requires licensing as well)

edit: this means that the mostpowerful part of a6 is not in house, since the sgx543mp3 gpu is imagination technologies's design. you can call it 40% apple's design at best.
 
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