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youre wrong. sorry. look at a cheap motherboard and the new(er) amd apu's. cheap and powerful for what they are. damaggio has 'results' posted in this section somewhere.
i'll be back with an edit with a link. watch for the edit....
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Originally Posted by Cannon19932006 View Post

it's am2+ socket, on 780g chipset, is there any reason he can't use a phenom 2?

its an oem mobo with locked bios and no bios support for it. lucky if he can upgrade the cpu at all.

*EDIT*
http://www.overclock.net/forum/newestpost/1274862
this thread. read his parts and prices. yes they are us dollars but it will still be close.
Edited by pc-illiterate - 9/22/12 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Cannon19932006 View Post

it's am2+ socket, on 780g chipset, is there any reason he can't use a phenom 2?

phenom 2 is AM3??
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Originally Posted by Cannon19932006 View Post

it's am2+ socket, on 780g chipset, is there any reason he can't use a phenom 2?
his power supply and motherboard. his power supply is probably the cheapest one around, and the motherboard probably has a very low power phase design, so in other words his motherboard would die with a high powered chip like a phenom ii
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why not get something like this?
MSI A55M-P33 FM1 AMD A55
AMD A6-3650/3500
4gb ddr3, 2X2gb, 1600mhz,

or something along these lines, like you could get a better mobo, or an a8 3850.
if you choose to upgrade to a llano/ trinity processor, make sure you get dual channel ram that is at least 1600mhz
Edited by thepoopscooper - 9/22/12 at 11:25am
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325$ eh? Well here goes wheee.gif (using Newegg as reference here)

CPU - AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop - 110$

Mobo - ASRock A75M-ITX FM1 AMD A75 - 90$

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 1600MHz - 30$

SSD - OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB - 100$

Total - 330$ (203 pounds)

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Your friend will be more at home with an APU build. The 3870 runs circles around that old 9950 and is more efficient. The built in 6550D will suffice for all basic needs, including casual gaming.
Edited by PunkX 1 - 9/22/12 at 11:27am
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his power supply and motherboard. his power supply is probably the cheapest one around, and the motherboard probably has a very low power phase design, so in other words his motherboard would die with a high powered chip like a phenom ii

Athlon ii then, if i were him i would ask acer perhaps if the bios with the board will support it. That 9150e is a dog.

Acer also has a few bios updates on their site for the aspire 3201.


edit: but yes as suggested above, the best option would to be starting from scratch, an apu would probably be a good idea.
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325$ eh? Well here goes wheee.gif (using Newegg and NCIX as reference here)
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Mobo - ASRock A75M-ITX FM1 AMD A75 - 90$

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 1600MHz - 30$
SSD - OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB - 100$
Total - 330$ (203 pounds)
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Your friend will be more at home with an APU build. The 3870 runs circles around that old 9950 and is more efficient. The built in 6550D will suffice for all basic needs, including casual gaming.

psu?
case?
hdds?


i have a fully working system right here, and with th 200~ pounds, i can have a rapid system all built! infact with just 4gb extra ram and an SSd it will be quick!
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phenom 2 is AM3??

You can use am3 cpu's in am2+ sockets. I have a athlon ii 620 in an am2+ board running in my backup rig right now. Whether or not The acer board supports the certain processors is up for debate...
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Athlon ii then, if i were him i would ask acer perhaps if the bios with the board will support it. That 9150e is a dog.
Acer also has a few bios updates on their site for the aspire 3201.
edit: but yes as suggested above, the best option would to be starting from scratch, an apu would probably be a good idea.
again, most athlon ii are 95W. that processor is a 65W, and since it is a pre built, that probably means that it is probably struggling on the bare minimum. the 65W athlon ii chips are dual cores, and what is the point of gaining performance per core if you lose 2 cores?
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psu?
case?
hdds?
i have a fully working system right here, and with th 200~ pounds, i can have a rapid system all built! infact with just 4gb extra ram and an SSd it will be quick!


Were talking about a 1.6ghz quad core with lower ipc then a phenom ii, the processor is a DOG. i would recommend even an athlon ii dual core over it.
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