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psu?
case?
hdds?

i have a fully working system right here, and with th 200~ pounds, i can have a rapid system all built! infact with just 4gb extra ram and an SSd it will be quick!
reuse
reuse
reuse
you will still have a fully functional system
post #22 of 33
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psu?
case?
hdds?
i have a fully working system right here, and with th 200~ pounds, i can have a rapid system all built! infact with just 4gb extra ram and an SSd it will be quick!

I figured you already had the PSU, case and HDD? (reuse from the Acer)..though I'd probably get a better PSU.

And 6GB RAM is horribly unbalanced for an AMD setup.

The base components I posted will be about 2x-3x the performance of that old 9950 setup.
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post #23 of 33
lets put it this way cannon. as pooper is pointing out, a NEW apu build will get ddr3 ram over ddr2 and a better and more efficient quad core ( not outdated quad or dual core).

no reason to stick with what he has and UPDATE an OUTDATED OEM pc when he can build a new rig that will do better with lower power consumption and new tech.
and forget the ssd. use that money to buy a 6670 ddr5 that will add much more pleasure.
as i stated in my edit in the earlier post, do what damaggio did and build like he did.

edit for cannon- after i posted i saw you 'saw the light'
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post #24 of 33
tdp is not power consumed.

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-energy-efficient-cpus-ahoy-phenom-x4-9350e-9150e-tested/power-consumption-5
phenom 9150e----189w load

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/980/14/
phenom ii 955----220w load


Given this info, a lower clocked phenom ii, or tri core athlon/phenom ii should be in the same power consumption range. The original phenoms were never known for being efficient.
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post #25 of 33
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lets put it this way cannon. as pooper is pointing out, a NEW apu build will get ddr3 ram over ddr2 and a better and more efficient quad core ( not outdated quad or dual core).
no reason to stick with what he has and UPDATE an OUTDATED OEM pc when he can build a new rig that will do better with lower power consumption and new tech.
and forget the ssd. use that money to buy a 6670 ddr5 that will add much more pleasure.
as i stated in my edit in the earlier post, do what damaggio did and build like he did.


I acknowledged that building fresh would be a better option, but if the op does not want to we should still offer advice...
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post #26 of 33
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Were talking about a 1.6ghz quad core with lower ipc then a phenom ii, the processor is a DOG. i would recommend even an athlon ii dual core over it.
but the increase is minimal, and for the price you pay, the increase isnt worth it. you could spend $50 and have old everything, and when he decides to upgrade, he will be stuck with an old, under powered dual core, where if he waits until trinity, he could just get a new everything, and have an upgrade path as well. as for the llano build i did, that was a quick build, in case he needed a new comp asap
post #27 of 33
instead of another edit,

that ssd wont do crap on that old ass motherboard with an old ass processor. there are very few instances where an ssd speeds up anything other than booting.
trust us and build a new amd apu. you wont regret it.
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post #28 of 33
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instead of another edit,
that ssd wont do crap on that old ass motherboard with an old ass processor. there are very few instances where an ssd speeds up anything other than booting.
trust us and build a new amd apu. you wont regret it.
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post #29 of 33
@OP, the APU build I listed earlier will give you a massive performance boost over what you have.
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post #30 of 33
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I acknowledged that building fresh would be a better option, but if the op does not want to we should still offer advice...

cheers for the advice guys,

im just gonna flog it, i only payed 20 quid for the system, whats it worth then people, ive just put a new version of windows 7 ultimate on it.

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