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What would it really cost to end global hunger? The United Nations estimates that it would take at least $30 billion per year
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I hate when people say we can end hunger by simply giving hungry people food.

Lets think about it, when you feed someone they will survive. Then they will reproduce (and in places where hunger is rife, birth rate is enormous) which will lead to more people to feed. Most African countries birth rates are over 30 births every year per 1000 citizens. Which means the population will double in 30 years or less. (Uganda and Niger are the worst, their population is set to double every 20 years with a birth rate of 50)

I know it was not your main point, and that this is off topic, but it is a peeve of mine.

Carry on.
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I hate when people say we can end hunger by simply giving hungry people food.
Lets think about it, when you feed someone they will survive. Then they will reproduce (and in places where hunger is rife, birth rate is enormous) which will lead to more people to feed. Most African countries birth rates are over 30 births every year per 1000 citizens. Which means the population will double in 30 years or less. (Uganda and Niger are the worst, their population is set to double every 20 years with a birth rate of 50)
I know it was not your main point, and that this is off topic, but it is a peeve of mine.
Carry on.

Quoted for the truth.

Imagine all the better things you can spend the billions of dollars these companies attack eachother with. Let's put this money into the space program! Or economic development.
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Quoted for the truth.
Imagine all the better things you can spend the billions of dollars these companies attack eachother with. Let's put this money into the space program! Or economic development.

I vote for space elevator.
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Is it possible to make patents illegal?

Yes it is possible and I hope that one day they are illegal, well maybe not illegal but not government enforced. People claim the benefit the economy but they really only benefit an individual or a small group of people.
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I hate when people say we can end hunger by simply giving hungry people food.

You didn't read the article, that's not what they proposed at all.
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Who cares, not like the 99% will ever see that money anyways. I don't see how this is even a concern for the 99%.

Mainstream media always tries to make it seem like it's affecting everyone when it's just a game played by the 1%.
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I hate when people say we can end hunger by simply giving hungry people food.
Lets think about it, when you feed someone they will survive. Then they will reproduce (and in places where hunger is rife, birth rate is enormous) which will lead to more people to feed. Most African countries birth rates are over 30 births every year per 1000 citizens. Which means the population will double in 30 years or less. (Uganda and Niger are the worst, their population is set to double every 20 years with a birth rate of 50)
I know it was not your main point, and that this is off topic, but it is a peeve of mine.
Carry on.


True. Obviously some people do not know that more children lead to more money/ farmwork for food.

post #68 of 70
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I'm pretty sure even the base Corolla is available with most, if not all, of the same interior niceties as any of the more expensive cars.

I'm pretty sure there is no Corolla that features things like remembering seat/steering wheel position and adjusts for each driver / adjusts back during car entry/exit (Infiniti feature). Or no Corolla has proximity based unlocking and push button start so you effectively never need to even touch your keys (Infiniti feature). None of those are necessary, but they are pretty cool and nice to have if you have money to spend.
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I'm pretty sure there is no Corolla that features things like remembering seat/steering wheel position and adjusts for each driver / adjusts back during car entry/exit (Infiniti feature). Or no Corolla has proximity based unlocking and push button start so you effectively never need to even touch your keys (Infiniti feature). None of those are necessary, but they are pretty cool and nice to have if you have money to spend.

Those are not Infiniti features. They exist on many vehicles, and have been around for a long time.

Here's the thing about cars, especially new high end cars: Everything is computer controlled.
What that means is that manufacturers can enable and disable electronic features with the press of a button, literally. So, if you buy a new car and choose not to pay for the auto-adjusting seats, they just disable it in the software. It still has all the same power seats and all the other same hardware as the model that does have that feature. They just disable the "auto" portion in the computer.

That way its very fast and easy and cost effective for manufacturers to sell the same car with different feature sets.
Ultimately it's the consumers that lose (as always). If you don't pay for those features, then you're not getting the true full power of the device that you own. And if you do pay for those features, then you're paying more for the same hardware that you would have gotten anyway.
That is not directly the fault of patents... Mostly just corporate greed. There's no legitimate reason why those types of features should cost extra, since the production cost is exactly the same either way. And there's absolutely no reason why there should be any models with electronic features that are artificially permanently disabled, even though the hardware supports it.
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What a world of greed we live in.
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