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Ease of use and maintenance is certainly going to be in the console's favor for casual users.

Anyway, you buy a console because it has a game you want to play that you can't get elsewhere, or because you'd prefer to play it on the console.
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-cheapo
-moar games than pc

No console has a larger library of games than PC.

it's not even close.
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-games run and look fine

Same can be said for a mid range PC built five years ago, if one's definition of fine is 720p at 30fps.
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so, with all that many many could have bought every console on the market + all their crap accessories and services and stuff

Possibly, but then I'd lose out on 99% of the functionality of a PC.
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Most games worth owning are on multiple platforms.

That's a matter of opinion.

Of my top ten games of all time, all of them were originally exclusives, and eight are still PC exclusive.
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I have bought a console because PC are lacking sports & fighting games thumb.gif

This is generally true.
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Finally, a lot of stigma still exists around the idea of building or owning a "Gaming PC" because it is still considered to be a Geek/Nerd hobby.

Most idiotic reason to avoid anything.
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1. cheaper than a gaming PC
2. most games come out for console first
3. no need for frequent upgrades. you are pretty much set for 5 years without shedding any more cash into the hardware.
4. you always are able to play the games without crashes because consoles can be easily and properly tested compared to millions of PC configs. (right?)
5. gameplay is always smooth

1. Debatable.
2. Only if you ignore a sizable portion of games.
3. If you are willing to tolerate console level graphics and performance, you can easily stretch out a mid-range PC for five years.
4. I have encounter bugs, including game breaking crashes/lockups, on consoles.
5. Not always.
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As for what corporate America sees, if you game on anything other than a console, you are a pirate!

A sizable portion of console gamers are pirates, and I'm pretty sure corporate America includes plenty of console pirates as well. So, they can't be ignorant of this fact.
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I was a huge fan of GT4, put endless hours into it, and GT5 was just a giant letdown for me. The PS3 USED to be a good blu-ray player, but you can get better now for $10 or less. The BR drive in my rig cost me a whopping $50. As for games on the PS3 matching your rig?.... What are you playing that even looks comparable? Play BF3 on a your PS3, then play it on your rig. It will look clearly leaps and bounds better. Or Metro 2033, Or Crysis/Crysis 2(with DX11 and HR tex pack)

Don't own BF3 on either Console or Computer.
Only own Crysis(es) and Metro 2033 on Computer.
All I'm trying to get at is, I prefer the graphics of my PS3.. Maybe it's a CPU bottleneck for me but some games struggle to hold a nice clean 30 or 60 FPS..

Maybe there is something seriously wrong, this was done with a Stock 6950 (shader unlocked) and a 1090T that would of been at 4GHz/air at the time:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30499259/ShadowEW/Steam/Pika%20%E2%9D%A4%20~%20PC/Metro%202033/2011.09.17%2013-32-33/metro_report.html
Yes that average says +30 FPS, but between 14-43 seconds the game would be unplayable (personally) ranging 28 down to 10 FPS
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You're screwed if you can't read then wheee.gif

Hahahaha upsidedwnsmiley.gif

It amazes me how this title "Why Buy A Console?" stirs up pissin' matches between the console & PC...Oh well whistle.gif
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It amazes me how this title "Why Buy A Console?" stirs up pissin' matches between the console & PC...Oh well whistle.gif

I think it's kind of just natural for console vs PC wars. Heck, when I hear someone talking about a console, I always think, fool please, PC is where it's at tongue.gif
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You really don't understand the concept of answering questions...The thread title is "Why Buy A Console?" not "What Makes the Console Better Then the PC?"
If you read the title "Why Buy A Console?", you will clearly see that my answers are responding to that question and not to your assumption to what you think I am implying wink.gif
FYI...I am primarily a PC Gamer but I have the console for 2 specific reasons...sports & fighting games which I had stated way back in post #53. So where did I ever say the console is better than a pc? I did not. Your response to my post makes you sound like those politicians.
So where did I say this in my post Mr. Politician?
Reading is fundamental teaching.gif

Maybe next time I'll just put asterisks after everything I say. I was using a colloquial 'you' not you directly, Apologies.
Reading comprehension is fundamental teaching.gif
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Don't own BF3 on either Console or Computer.
Only own Crysis(es) and Metro 2033 on Computer.
All I'm trying to get at is, I prefer the graphics of my PS3.. Maybe it's a CPU bottleneck for me but some games struggle to hold a nice clean 30 or 60 FPS..
Maybe there is something seriously wrong, this was done with a Stock 6950 (shader unlocked) and a 1090T that would of been at 4GHz/air at the time:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30499259/ShadowEW/Steam/Pika%20%E2%9D%A4%20~%20PC/Metro%202033/2011.09.17%2013-32-33/metro_report.html
Yes that average says +30 FPS, but between 14-43 seconds the game would be unplayable (personally) ranging 28 down to 10 FPS

Can almost guarantee you its the "Advanced PhysX: Enabled" Turn it off, you're running an AMD rig like mine, that's what's killing you.

EDIT: Now you've got me installing Metro to run benchmarks. I played and beat it on my laptop (dualcore 2.5 and a gtx260m), ran beautifully on medium on it, which would still look better than PS3/360
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Bought my PS3 for GT, MGS, and a few others, aswell as the BluRay player it comes with. As playing a BluRay on computer (easily) would (at the time) cost me 1 Windows License (I'm a Linux only person) + a BluRay drive for my computer + BluRay compatable playback software (as at the time when I got my PS3, there was no free software to play BluRays on computers). And I could, and can still install Linux to it, which essentially turns it into an actual computer for me, which is always another plus.
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Can almost guarantee you its the "Advanced PhysX: Enabled" Turn it off, you're running an AMD rig like mine, that's what's killing you.
Only just noticed that now you mention it.. That might well be the woe of what Metro 2033 ran so poorly in benchmark, even so it never performed that badly 'in game' (But it never held a solid FPS, fluctuated a lot still) .. But I never really got that far into the game to even experience that test level. xD

Even so, I still see a better quality, crisper picture and overall smoother game play from the PS3 than I do my computer for most to all games. Loading times might be quicker on my computer, but overall play-time is better for me on a console..
I know it's not a compelling argument to say the PS3 is better, that's just illogical and idiotic.. But it's given me a more consistently better experience. (For comparisons, Hoshi and PS3 were connected to the same TV last year x3)

I'll make sure to try another Benchmark when I get back in.. Only if my ISP has decided that I can use my internet and can manage to download Metro2033 off Steam again.. (As of late been getting 0.15Mb/s down and 0.03Mb/s up mad.gif)
 
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This sums it up.
 
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Only just noticed that now you mention it.. That might well be the woe of what Metro 2033 ran so poorly in benchmark, even so it never performed that badly 'in game' (But it never held a solid FPS, fluctuated a lot still) .. But I never really got that far into the game to even experience that test level. xD
Even so, I still see a better quality, crisper picture and overall smoother game play from the PS3 than I do my computer for most to all games. Loading times might be quicker on my computer, but overall play-time is better for me on a console..
I know it's not a compelling argument to say the PS3 is better, that's just illogical and idiotic.. But it's given me a more consistently better experience. (For comparisons, Hoshi and PS3 were connected to the same TV last year x3)
I'll make sure to try another Benchmark when I get back in.. Only if my ISP has decided that I can use my internet and can manage to download Metro2033 off Steam again.. (As of late been getting 0.15Mb/s down and 0.03Mb/s up mad.gif)

Ouch. DLing it now at a steady 2MB/s and even I feel that's slow. That steadiness you get on the PS3 is due to 1. The game is not running at 1080p natively on the PS3 like it is on your comp. 2. MUCH lower settings visually. and 3. The way the CELL processor works with the GPU to handle the calls it gets runs much smoother. 4. It's locked at 30fps. You can easily make it as smooth as the PS3, it just won't look as good as it could (but will still look overall better.)

Again, I'm not one to try and force someone away from a console (as I still own some) but just pointing out benefits, differences, etc. And reasons why a console can sort of maintain a steady frame rate. I remember the first time I played Halo: Reach and every time I got into a big battle I'd notice stutter and slowdown. So consoles aren't immune to it, they just handle it better due to their much lower settings and lower frame rate. In fact, if I recall correctly, with a few exception, MOST console games run at some strange version of 720p, like 1024x720 or something odd like that. (Again, there are a very select few that don't and run higher), so that's a huge thing right there.
 
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