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You're still missing the point. Most people don't want to learn about: driver updates, PC maintenence, Antivirus, DirectX, Game patches, windows updates etc. For them it's just too much to think about, buy a console and everything "Just works".
Then there is actually buying a PC. "Which one should i get?" There are so many traps. Buying a so called "Gaming PC" might not even be that good. Then once you get the PC you gotta install all your games, then you have to start your game and plug in all the settings. High/Medium/Low, AA, AF, Vsync`??? Brain explosion....
With a console you get a gaming platform that just works, not to mention that people who play on a console are completely happy with it. I don't disagree that a PC is better, i live and breath the modern PC, but i understand why most other people don't. Simple things like finding the correct driver is a real pain in the arse for most people.
I don't know how old you are, but once you get a few kids and start working full time the last thing you want to be doing is trying to get your PC to work properly if you didn't learn it when you were 15. It's a matter of time and money and for most families a console is cheaper and easier!

What he says is true. I will tell you I am the only PC gamer I know out of many who all just console game. I learned at an early age how to use a computer (dos days) so it's easy for me. The fact of the matter is most people stick their head in a hole in the ground when they think about the above said. It's like that recent crucial study. 94% of computer uses say their computer causes them stress. That's because 94% of them have no clue what they are doing other then email and surf. They got the guy at best buy or wherever to install windows and massive bloatware on their PC when they purchased it. tongue.gif
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Just to add to that...

 

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This god damn launcher crash is pissing me off!

I was able to get the game working a couple of days ago by doing a clean install of gpu drivers and verifying the game cache

Tried launching the game today and I its doing the same crap. I've search the internet looking for fixes and I have tried every god damn thing. These are what I have done so far

1. Verify game cache, it downloaded a missing file
2. restarted steam
LAUNCHER CRASHED ON STARTUP

3. uninstall and reinstall .NET Framework
4. restarted computer
5. verify game cache, it downloaded missing file again
GAME STILL DOES NOT WORK

7. create a .TXT file with numbers 49520 and save it in the steam directory, than run borderlands2.exe as admin
STILL DOES NOT WORK

8. uninstall and reinstall the game, verify game cache, it downloaded missing file again, restarted steam
AGAIN, LAUNCHER CRASHED ON STARTUP!

What else am I suppose to do?

I AM ABSOLUTELY FREAKING LIVID, TRYING REALLY HARD NOT TO PUNCH A GOD DAMN HOLE IN THE WALL.


From this very forum.

That right there is one very viable reason people don't want to play games on a PC. Even when you have an idea of what you are doing it can still cause you stress. Lol.

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I've never understood why people buy a console...

I have bought a console because PC are lacking sports & fighting games thumb.gif
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Convenient to use (it pretty much just works 99% of the time)
Unified experience
More of my friends have Xbox Live than have gaming PCs
Sitting back in a comfy couch away from a big TV is often a 'nicer' experience for many than sitting close to a PC screen. And I know I 'could' sit far away from my PC, but you just know it's not the same.


I just find some games I play and enjoy very much on console. And some I play and enjoy very much on PC.

Why not just let people do what they prefer? One isn't necessarily 'better' than the other, as to me, they are very different experiences.

I hardly ever play FPS or strategy games on a console, but I find RPGs and racing games to be much more enjoyable when playing on console, for example
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I have bought a console because PC are lacking sports & fighting games thumb.gif

?

 

 

There are other games than those made by EA sports, you know.

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why a console? for simplicity, put the disk on, wait a little, play the game. /end

Not everyone can afford a pc, right now you can have a ps3 for 250$ with 2 games at wal mart. The biggest exemple i can give you is my sister. She got kids and a console is the best for her, no hassle, they cant mess up the console like a pc (in the software) easy to use and my sister dont give a damn about AA, better textures better loading and all. She doesn't know that. Can they play a game? yes,
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Ease of use mainly.
The general populous just want something they can plug into the TV, pop a game in and play. Not everyone has the knowledge or confidence to build their own rig.

This...

Also consider how simple a 360 for example is to figure out if you're like say 10 or 12. Or what if you don't understand windows very well? What about hardware specs? I know plenty of people over all ages who can't figure out how to reset a driver... because they don't even know what RAM is or how to navigate the file system. I am in a training class right now for taking medicare inbound calling... I am amazed at the struggles I see each day on the computers.
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For me it's mostly for when I want to play with other people. I don't play CoD much anymore, but I play games with my girlfriend a lot. And once in a while I catch up with friends on xbox.
It's also good for when you have people over. I keep my xbox in the living room and my PC in my bedroom, you just can't play on a PC with 3 or 4 friends.
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You're still missing the point. Most people don't want to learn about: driver updates, PC maintenence, Antivirus, DirectX, Game patches, windows updates etc. For them it's just too much to think about, buy a console and everything "Just works".
Then there is actually buying a PC. "Which one should i get?" There are so many traps. Buying a so called "Gaming PC" might not even be that good. Then once you get the PC you gotta install all your games, then you have to start your game and plug in all the settings. High/Medium/Low, AA, AF, Vsync`??? Brain explosion....
With a console you get a gaming platform that just works, not to mention that people who play on a console are completely happy with it. I don't disagree that a PC is better, i live and breath the modern PC, but i understand why most other people don't. Simple things like finding the correct driver is a real pain in the arse for most people.
I don't know how old you are, but once you get a few kids and start working full time the last thing you want to be doing is trying to get your PC to work properly if you didn't learn it when you were 15. It's a matter of time and money and for most families a console is cheaper and easier!

But that's the thing you don't need to know about driver updates, PC maintenence, Antivirus, DirectX, Game patches, windows updates etc. Its for the most parts a myth or at least the way the average Joe has been lead to believe. Driver updates are rarely if ever a absolute must to do as are Game patches. DirectX is automatic as are windows updates. PC maintenence is generic and can mean pretty much anything and Antivirus is not need for gaming but is nice to have if you surf the web so most people in general figure out how to get some.

Like I said in my eralier post
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The game says it need a 166MHz Pentium as minimum. Great as my gray box says it has 200MHz.
that works in reverse to. By what the game says. Its as simple as reading.
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Then once you get the PC you gotta install all your games, then you have to start your game and plug in all the settings. High/Medium/Low, AA, AF, Vsync`??? Brain explosion....
No you don't. Auto detect works just fine. No need to fiddle with the settings if you don't want to.

As for consoles. There can be plenty of hoops to jump though there to. A good example is when a acquaintance of mine was going to show me a new game on his PS3.

PS3 powers up: The system needs to be updated --> runs update
Put game in drive: Install the game
Gets into the game: Create profile

Then and only then did we actually get to play the game.

Also its not like there is never any bugs or glitches in consoles games. Or frame drops. Or crashes.

As for been happy with consoles. Sure can't argue with that. But how many know what PC games actually look/play like? You can be happy with a old Atari if you lack a point of reference.

Consoles are easier but the differense is much smaller its made out to be.

Oh and I'm 24 thanks for asking biggrin.gif
    
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I started console gaming back in the early 90's. I grew up playing console games before I even knew about PCs. It evolved into a pastime with my friends and family. The ability to play a wide variety of games with my friends in the same room only required extra controllers. When it comes down to it, there are many reasons people prefer consoles over building PCs: money, convenience, enjoyment, stereotypes.

A console only costs around $200-$300 and $60 or less for games. The console doesn't require maintenance, it doesn't require any internal hardware upgrades. If I wanted to play a game on a console all I do is start the system, log in to my account and begin the game. The only updates are the system and software updates then I'm good to play. $60 a year for an XBOX Live Gold account is nothing compared to $150+ for a decent video card and possibly another $100+ for a CPU depending on the kind of performance you would like. I stepped away from PC building for a few years because of the cost to upgrade the PC every few years if I wanted to have optimal performance.

Enjoyment is another major factor, while PC gamers may have fun playing online or LANing with friends it is much easier (unless your friends have extra monitors) and just as much fun to play games with your friends on a single TV or bring a console and controller and play on different TVs in the same room/house. The fun of motion controllers provide experiences we don't have on PCs yet.

Finally, a lot of stigma still exists around the idea of building or owning a "Gaming PC" because it is still considered to be a Geek/Nerd hobby.
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