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Poll Results: Which system is the best for me?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 14% (8)
    4c, 3.0, FM1, A8-3870K IGP
  • 50% (28)
    4c, ?.?, FM2, A10-5800K IGP
  • 5% (3)
    4c, ?.?, FM2, A8-(trinityK) IGP
  • 1% (1)
    4c, 2.8, FM1, Athlon II X4 641
  • 5% (3)
    3c, 3.2, AM3+, Athlon II X3 450
  • 23% (13)
    2c, 3.0, 1155, G850 + HD 6670
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post #21 of 65
9/23/12 at 1:10pm
  • xd_1771
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Edited my post with another suggestion to go low profile and scrap the cooler. At this budget I don't see why it is necessary or practical to have a cooler of sorts, nor pay premiums for PSUs that could power two or maybe three 3870k-based PCs at once.

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post #22 of 65
9/23/12 at 1:17pm
H80=/=H60

Now you are talking about spending over $100 on a water cooler, while using a 6670 graphics card rolleyes.gif
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post #23 of 65
9/23/12 at 1:23pm
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5D/xigmatek_gaia_review

212 is only 5 degrees off an H100. Stick some decent paste between it and the cpu, and add another fan.
Edited by Gundamnitpete - 9/23/12 at 1:30pm
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post #24 of 65
9/23/12 at 1:58pm
Too good a price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116397

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/404?vs=188

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/404?vs=202

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/404?vs=399

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/404?vs=88
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post #25 of 65
9/23/12 at 2:41pm
its ok xd. i think he is trolling the forums looking for the answer he wants to get.
you always have a great build list. the real forumers know what youre saying thumb.gif
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post #26 of 65
9/24/12 at 12:15am
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Originally Posted by pc-illiterate View Post

its ok xd. i think he is trolling the forums looking for the answer he wants to get.
you always have a great build list. the real forumers know what youre saying thumb.gif
Youre giving me way too much credit.

Please dont accuse me of trolling, I have a sincere situation and I tried to lay it out as sincerely and as concisely as possible.

hot climate, wants to OC and wants "bestest" bang for the buck. also as importantly, in the above setup with internet radio, mumble and a light browser on, which setup would best be suited for me? dual, or more cores?

is it foolish for me to consider closed loop systems? thats what im trying to find out and thats why im on this forum.

cheers.
Edited by kaiMCsquare - 9/24/12 at 12:36am
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post #27 of 65
9/24/12 at 1:05am
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Anyway guys, I messed up again.

In http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kaiMCsquare/saved/ I forgetfully included a watercooler for the G860, a non OCable chip.

I've updated it into http://pcpartpicker.com/p/inDJ where its turning out to be THE cheapest setup so far, with no OCing possible, and is a dual core.

( On a sidenote, I've also updated it into http://pcpartpicker.com/p/inG4 whereby the extra money saved from not having to get an aftermarket cooler can be put into pairing the G860 with either a HD 7770, or this GTX650 Superclocked (1202Mhz), 1GB GDDR5 (5000Mhz), PCIE3.0 . Sounds delicious.
http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/47706-01g-p4-2652-kr
http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/205995/VIDEOCARDS_NVIDIA_GEFORCE_6_VIDEOCARDS/EVGA/01G-P4-2652-KR.asp )

Looking ahead:
With a Llano setup, in the future when money comes by, I spend about $60 to DualGraphics the system, and end up with an A8-3870K + HD6670.
With a Trinity setup, I could spend $??? to DualGraphics, and end up with a (TrinityK) + HD ????.
With a G860 setup, I could spend $200 (-$40 if considering the orig price) for a i5-2500K, and end up with a i5-2500K + HD 6670 (OR the GTX650.OC or HD 7770), with NO aftermarket cooler and normal RAM.
...of course, for $160, I could still just disable DG and buy the GTX650.OC or HD 7770 for the A8 or A10, which also already has a OC, watercooler and badass RAM and is at quadCore.

Maybe, all I really, really, really need now is for someone to tell me that the G860+HD6670 (maybe G860+GTX650.OC or HD7770) can handle all games (especially MMOs like SC2 and BF3 and WoW) at at least medium, while a lightBrowser, xfire/mumble and internetRadio is concurrently running.

I should consider building just one system first and actually testing it out on my own...
Edited by kaiMCsquare - 9/24/12 at 1:24am
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post #28 of 65
9/24/12 at 1:16am
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You don't really need to have water cooling sinks on the other setups either, there's headroom that can be had on the stock cooler.

I like the Llano + 6670 and (potential) Trinity (+ 7670 or 7750?) PCs because they can be fit into a lower profile than any of the other options and consume the least power.

 

Socket FM2 (Trinity) is far more future-proof - it will be the most future-proof platform available on the market when it is out - as AMD has confirmed it will accept several future generations of APU - this means it will be able to accomodate next-gen Kaveri APU in 2013, which will introduce something AMD is developing called "HSA" (which means it'll basically slay every Intel-based processor in performance wherever there is an HSA-optimized app, and programs will be easy to optimize/code for HSA - read about it). LGA1155 support ends with Ivy bridge and even the 3770k will not hold a candle to a far less expensive/power intensive mid-range Kaveri APU with HSA apps.

 

With FM2 and Trinity due out in as little as 1 week I honestly see it as the best option for your budget and needs.

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post #29 of 65
9/24/12 at 1:26am
Dude scrap AMD. For gaming an i3 will beat any of those AMD CPUs. Check out this hella deal. Intel Core i3 3225 3.30 GHz & Gigabyte GA-H61M-DS2 mATX Motherboard $119.98 AR Microcenter http://slickdeals.net/f/5236654-Intel-Core-i3-3225-3-30-GHz-LGA-1155-Boxed-Processor-And-Gigabyte-GA-H61M-DS2-mATX-Motherboard-119-98-AR-B-M-Microcenter
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post #30 of 65
9/24/12 at 1:40am
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You don't really need to have water cooling sinks on the other setups either, there's headroom that can be had on the stock cooler.
I like the Llano + 6670 and (potential) Trinity (+ 7670 or 7750?) PCs because they can be fit into a lower profile than any of the other options and consume the least power.

Socket FM2 (Trinity) is far more future-proof - it will be the most future-proof platform available on the market when it is out - as AMD has confirmed it will accept several future generations of APU - this means it will be able to accomodate next-gen Kaveri APU in 2013, which will introduce something AMD is developing called "HSA" (which means it'll basically slay every Intel-based processor in performance wherever there is an HSA-optimized app, and programs will be easy to optimize/code for HSA - read about it). LGA1155 support ends with Ivy bridge and even the 3770k will not hold a candle to a far less expensive/power intensive mid-range Kaveri APU with HSA apps.

With FM2 and Trinity due out in as little as 1 week I honestly see it as the best option for your budget and needs.
Are the prices for Llano already shot down or does it seem that we have to wait for Trinity's launch for us to see Llano's prices go south?

ps: that HSA thing sounds very interesting! easy to optimize you say? kinda like what XML is for the web? finally!
Edited by kaiMCsquare - 9/24/12 at 1:45am
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