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Thanks for the response
I hate to say it, but not interested in Gigabyte model since the card have the "BLUE" PCB which I really dont like it.
I am just interested between TOP and PE card.
From what I've read, the ASUS card is Perfectly Silent, but MSI card have probably better temperature and have best overclocking on GTX 670 model (I read it on Guru3d.com)...is that true? Correct me If I'm Wrong.

Asus GTX 670 direct cu ii has the best cooler. but i have heard too many complaints on the asus direct cu ii top cards on forums. so check with asus direct cu ii top card users.
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Asus GTX 670 direct cu ii has the best cooler. but i have heard too many complaints on the asus direct cu ii top cards on forums. so check with asus direct cu ii top card users.

Thanks for the response
I was checking the thread you've mentioned, and I am surprised that ASUS card have a lot of problem with their flagship models.
So ..,does the PE Card now is better overall than ASUS TOP model?
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PE is cheaper and perform just as good as Top(plus the Top is out of stock you can only get the stock DC2 nowadays) in the reviews I seen, also serach "DC II vs Twin Frozor IV" in the Nvidia cooling forum, you should see the ASUS DCII cooler defeated by the MSI Twin Frozor IV(used on the PE) in a head to head match-up because it had less noise when operating at a high fan %, DCII is quieter/cooler when you operate at near idle fan% though.

The only other 670 I would consider is Gigabyte N670-OC-2GD, commonly called the Windforce for its Windforce 3X cooler(yes, 3 fans and quiet), will cool a bit better than PE and have 680 PCB & Power deilvery. I used one and it is a really great card.
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PE is cheaper and perform just as good as Top(plus the Top is out of stock you can only get the stock DC2 nowadays) in the reviews I seen, also serach "DC II vs Twin Frozor IV" in the Nvidia cooling forum, you should see the ASUS DCII cooler defeated by the MSI Twin Frozor IV(used on the PE) in a head to head match-up because it had less noise when operating at a high fan %, DCII is quieter/cooler when you operate at near idle fan% though.
The only other 670 I would consider is Gigabyte N670-OC-2GD, commonly called the Windforce for its Windforce 3X cooler(yes, 3 fans and quiet), will cool a bit better than PE and have 680 PCB & Power deilvery. I used one and it is a really great card.

Thanks for the response
First I wanna to say, that in my country ASUS TOP is still available.

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but from what I understand, in 670, ASUS card is deadly silent, but MSI probably have better temperature, right? I've seen it on guru3d.com, kitguru.net, etc..(yeah I know maybe PE is louder than ASUS model at the same %)

I hate to say it (again), but I am not interested in Gigabyte model, because the card have the "BLUE" PCB, which I don't like it.
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Thanks for the response
First I wanna to say, that in my country ASUS TOP is still available.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but from what I understand, in 670, ASUS card is deadly silent, but MSI probably have better temperature, right? I've seen it on guru3d.com, kitguru.net, etc..(yeah I know maybe PE is louder than ASUS model at the same %)
I hate to say it (again), but I am not interested in Gigabyte model, because the card have the "BLUE" PCB, which I don't like it.

How many hours will you spend looking on you glorious "not blue" PCB?

Get the PE then, neither will disappoint you but you can look at its "not blue" PCB all day with the PE.
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They're pretty much two equivalent cards, you won't really notice a difference. I'd go with the DirectCU II due to less noise.
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Thanks for the response...
hmm, Maybe I can turn down the fans with AB, but when I turn down the fan, does the temperature on MSI card is Still higher than ASUS? especially when gaming?
and About Overclocking, I heard some people in many forums says that the MSI 670 PE card, doesn't have Triple Overvoltage, which means not beyond 1.175 volt, is that true? frown.gif

With the latest Afterburner I believe you can get up to 1.20-1.21v or so on the core voltage.

They seem to be a wash for core speeds but I'm of the intuition the MSI will definitely achieve higher memory overclocks (the more important metric for Kepler as it is constrained by memory bandwidth).

My buddy's Power Edition OC does 1300+MHz and 7.2GHz on the memory at stock voltage completely stable. My DirectCU II non-TOP does ~1250MHz on the core and ~6.6GHz on the memory, though I haven't hard-tested stability at those speeds and it's not quite a TOP. TOP memory isn't binned, though (evident in the stock memory clocks).

My DirectCU II is definitely much quieter than his PE/OC though. Not really cooler, though.
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AFAIK Afterburner 2.2.4(the newest stable) have caused quite a stir by disabling overvoltage on the MSI GTX 680 Lightning, with enough nvidia complaints the PE might be next.
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How many hours will you spend looking on you glorious "not blue" PCB?
Get the PE then, neither will disappoint you but you can look at its "not blue" PCB all day with the PE.

Thanks for the response
maybe I don't have much time to looking at that "BLUE" PCB, lol..., but I dont know why, when I get first looking at those PCB, I very hate it.
any reason why I must get an MSI card instead ASUS TOP?
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They're pretty much two equivalent cards, you won't really notice a difference. I'd go with the DirectCU II due to less noise.

Thanks for the response
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With the latest Afterburner I believe you can get up to 1.20-1.21v or so on the core voltage.
They seem to be a wash for core speeds but I'm of the intuition the MSI will definitely achieve higher memory overclocks (the more important metric for Kepler as it is constrained by memory bandwidth).
My buddy's Power Edition OC does 1300+MHz and 7.2GHz on the memory at stock voltage completely stable. My DirectCU II non-TOP does ~1250MHz on the core and ~6.6GHz on the memory, though I haven't hard-tested stability at those speeds and it's not quite a TOP. TOP memory isn't binned, though (evident in the stock memory clocks).
My DirectCU II is definitely much quieter than his PE/OC though. Not really cooler, though.

Thanks for the response
I heard on many forum, that you can simply flash the modified BIOS to Unlock the Voltage, means all 670 card can get fully Unlocked Voltage (1.21 volt from what I've seen), is that true?
Based on my thread, which one you will choose between those two? at Overall Performance at least.
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AFAIK Afterburner 2.2.4(the newest stable) have caused quite a stir by disabling overvoltage on the MSI GTX 680 Lightning, with enough nvidia complaints the PE might be next.

Thanks for the response
if that's true, maybe I could just use the standard afterburner 2.2.3? I hate nvidia doing this things, seriously.
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