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On topic: Does this mean the 830's are going to get cheaper?!?!

That's what I'm hoping. While I understand the 840's are faster I like how the 830's are more reliable and better longevity.
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post #102 of 225
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That's what I'm hoping. While I understand the 840's are faster I like how the 830's are more reliable and better longevity.

One would assume that the 840s are even more reliable and longer lasting than the 830?
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One would assume that the 840s are even more reliable and longer lasting than the 830?

You read this article?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6329/samsung-releases-tlc-nand-based-840-ssd
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Samsung is actually the first manufacturer to publicly release a TLC NAND based SSD, so we will have very interesting time testing it. Remember, adding more bits per cell reduces endurance and also increases program, erase and read latencies. In a Q&A session Samsung couldn't tell us any exact P/E cycle numbers, but they claimed that the 840 has higher endurance than many competitors MLC based SSDs. We didn't get more specifics than that, but we hope to be able to test this as soon as possible. As for the performance, Samsung again wouldn't tell us any raw latency numbers, but they said their TLC NAND is roughly 50% slower than their MLC NAND. For a more in-depth look at the architectural differences between MLC and TLC, refer to our Understanding TLC NAND article.
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post #104 of 225
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You read this article?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6329/samsung-releases-tlc-nand-based-840-ssd

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The 840 Pro will use normal DLC NAND, not TLC. So they should be very good.
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Crucial is already number 1 in reliability biggrin.gif
http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-7/components-returns-rates-6.html
There's no Samsung in this comparison 'cos it was so new at that time.
But probably we'll see it in next comparison which is scheduled for October (AFAIK) ...
Return rates are NOT a good measure of reliability so it's pointless to use that as a reference. Samsung has always been tops next to Intel in corporate/enterprise markets where they NEED reliable controllers and firmware, and those 2 companies have always done best. Of course, Intel's track record isn't really showing as much in consumer drives since they're using their own controllers less and less, but the job they did with the 520 should be testament enough.
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One would assume that the 840s are even more reliable and longer lasting than the 830?

You read this article?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6329/samsung-releases-tlc-nand-based-840-ssd
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Samsung is actually the first manufacturer to publicly release a TLC NAND based SSD, so we will have very interesting time testing it. Remember, adding more bits per cell reduces endurance and also increases program, erase and read latencies. In a Q&A session Samsung couldn't tell us any exact P/E cycle numbers, but they claimed that the 840 has higher endurance than many competitors MLC based SSDs. We didn't get more specifics than that, but we hope to be able to test this as soon as possible. As for the performance, Samsung again wouldn't tell us any raw latency numbers, but they said their TLC NAND is roughly 50% slower than their MLC NAND. For a more in-depth look at the architectural differences between MLC and TLC, refer to our Understanding TLC NAND article.
They said their TLC is gonna be better than some MLC, cut it.

Let's see, 50% less P/E cycles meas instead of 4PB, 2PB.
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They said their TLC is gonna be better than some MLC, cut it.
Let's see, 50% less P/E cycles meas instead of 4PB, 2PB.

I couldn't care less what they claim till I see proof.
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They said their TLC is gonna be better than some MLC, cut it.
Let's see, 50% less P/E cycles meas instead of 4PB, 2PB.
Actually thats not true at all.
TLC is 4x to 5x less durable than MLC, so that means in best case 1000 P/E...

Im very sad to see TLC flash in an ssd.
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Crucial is already number 1 in reliability biggrin.gif
http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-7/components-returns-rates-6.html
There's no Samsung in this comparison 'cos it was so new at that time.
But probably we'll see it in next comparison which is scheduled for October (AFAIK) ...
I wouldn't trust that source with my left... nostril cavity! Crucial M4 use to be the most reliable known drive when it was new. But if you bothered to go over to Newegg and read the reviews for the M4. You yourself would be scared of buying one. On almost every page there is customer who reports the M4 dying after 1 years use (not to be confused with the firmware hour bug). From every source that owns a 830, the drive runs phenomenal.
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Agreed, if you are trying to be power efficent on a computer, you want to go greener in these places first:
PSU: get a 80 Plus Gold/Plat PSU and run it near 40-75% load
GPU: get Kepler, nuff said.
CPU: get Ivy, nuff said
HDD: get a green drive
Ram: this is a no brainer, get Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @1.35V
Then you can worry about your SSD power consumption, because it is minute compared to the 5 listed above.
p.s Was going to list monitor but I think all mainstream monitor are energy star approved anyway.

Thanks for this summary! smile.gif
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