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I think this is all pretty irritating. I have 2 90GB SSDs in raid 0 (with trim enabled) for a total of 180 GB. I am pushing the max capacity of my drives even with being very careful about minimizing my data usage. I want to upgrade to a total of 480+ GB of SSD space by the end of this year. When the vertex 4 hit the market I thought it was the perfect drive and I was just going to wait until black Friday to pick up two of the 256GB SSDs.

However those plans keep getting thrown out of wack because it seems like SSD companies are coming up with new drives every week. On top of that, it doesn't seems like any of the reviews about these new drives give you a real indication of which drive to buy.

I have spent the last month doing nothing but research on SSDs trying to figure out which one I want and EVERY time I say "that is the drive I want", I see more rumors about newer and faster drives.

It is maddening. mad.gif
840. Did you see the AT workload scores? SMASHES the competition.
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840. Did you see the AT workload scores? SMASHES the competition.

To answer TJ226, all SSDs are fast and it is hard to perceive a difference - most likely, only benchmarks will pick up differences of recent model SSDs. You can literally pick up any recent model - Plextor m4, Crucial m4, intel 520, etc, etc etc and they are all extremely close.

That said - I want a 512GB 840 pro! gimme gimme gime tongue.gif ( I wonder how badly apple will want them for their next MBP lololol, looking forward to the price premium Sammy will charge them.)
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Yeah! I know that I'll probably buy the 128gb xD but what I meant was that if it was worth it to get an 830 now considering the 840's are close.
It will be my first SSD so I'm not really sure if the 830's are good enough but I trust Samsung products.

I love my 830. Definitely worth getting. The perceived real world difference between the 830 and 840 will be negligible for gaming/consumer use. Get an 830 just before the 840 drops, prices will be low to clear inventory. I might get a couple 256gb for raid 0. you want at least 128gb, 64gb won't hold much after os install
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No 840 is meant to be slower in that category with its lower quality NAND, it will not last as long as the 830 nor would its sequential write be as fat but its 4K random write is about 4 times that of 830(4K was always Samsung's weak spot), it is more of a low end product compared to 830 which was main stream and 840 Pro which would be the high end product.
The review at Anandtech is of the 840 Pro, NOT the vanilla 840. This isn't anything new that a company would tune down the sequential read/write performance in favor of random read/write performance (Indilinx did that with the first Barefoot for the original Vertex) and it should be perfectly acceptable to do that if you aren't gearing it toward server builders. Even that being the case the review wasn't using a retail drive with retail firmware, that's just not possible right now, so we'll have to wait and see what the retail units are like.
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Sata 6GB/s SSDs are all so fast, you will never tell a difference during real world use. Sure the Samsung 840 may boot your system .3 seconds faster, but all SSDs are ridiculously fast.
That said...I want one frown.gif Anyone spotted an online shop stocking them yet? I need to get some 840 pros.
You will notice the difference in real world use, especially with any type of excessive I/O. Whether it be copying files or converting a movie, the faster the drive will yield faster results (ie taking less time).
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wow, any new ssd rapes crucial m4 write speed
The Crucial M4 use to be the #1 recommended drive because of its price tag and how well it runs for the price. But in all honesty I would recommend a 830 over a M4 any day for reliability. Crucial has been working on their M5's so it probably wont be long until they release a new product as well.
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To answer TJ226, all SSDs are fast and it is hard to perceive a difference - most likely, only benchmarks will pick up differences of recent model SSDs. You can literally pick up any recent model - Plextor m4, Crucial m4, intel 520, etc, etc etc and they are all extremely close.
That said - I want a 512GB 840 pro! gimme gimme gime tongue.gif ( I wonder how badly apple will want them for their next MBP lololol, looking forward to the price premium Sammy will charge them.)
Yes you wont notice from the naked eye the different in speed between each when doing common daily tasks. Tho like said above when it comes to heavy I/O is when you will see one drive shine above the others.
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You will notice the difference in real world use, especially with any type of excessive I/O. Whether it be copying files or converting a movie, the faster the drive will yield faster results (ie taking less time).

Only a benchmark will show a difference. I own 2 crucial M4's, a samsung 830, and a corsair performance pro. There is no perceptible difference unless you're a benchmark nerd. In fact, I cloned my boot drive to other drives to test this and there is no perceptible difference.

How are you defining "real world use" / high I/O here?
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The only problem with that "you won't notice any difference" argument is that it is meant for the average consumer. I do a lot of photo, video, and music editing. So I am moving, writing, reading, up to 40GB at a time. So I do actually notice the difference between the drives because that fraction of a second to most people can translate into minutes for me. For instance, most people say that they can't notice the difference between one SSD and two SSDs in raid 0. Well raid 0 for me saves me about 40 minutes of picture editing, 15 minutes in video editing, and 20ish minutes in music editing.

I mean I would also like to have something that would load skyrim maps instantaneously, and when you have skyrim uber modded, maps can sometimes take a few seconds to load even on a SSD.

So trust me when I say that I need to fret over ever little IOPS and read/write speed that I can get.
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I would recommend a 830 over a M4 any day for reliability.

Crucial is already number 1 in reliability biggrin.gif

http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-7/components-returns-rates-6.html

There's no Samsung in this comparison 'cos it was so new at that time.
But probably we'll see it in next comparison which is scheduled for October (AFAIK) ...
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You have a 3960X and 6990 and you're worried about power draw? o.O

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PWNED!

On topic: Does this mean the 830's are going to get cheaper?!?!
    
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I have been pondering going raid0 unfortunately the 450gb raptor must have been in the floods Im not paying 200 or more for another especially when some reviews http://www.anandtech.com/show/1371 say no real world difference despite benches

the new 840 pro looks excellent
I also like the magician software


I will wait till december to see that the ssd is reliable and the firmware is a little more mature

one question
do i have to continually update the firmware
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