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The demand has never been higher. I don't understand this. Then again, this is the interwebs.
 
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post #52 of 65
That's still a massive figure, I have a feeling it'll show some insane sales over the months up to christmas
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post #53 of 65
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post

Fanboys will do what they want, but they can expect to hear about it from me, it brings down the quality of this entire forum, it's highly unprofessional.
Also, Apple didn't miss any forecast, you can bet that they sold exactly what they expected, which was every device they made available for sale this weekend. It's not Apple's fault if some random people out there had forecasted otherwise. So, unless Apple has trouble selling the iPhone 5s that they do make available over the coming weeks, then I wouldn't say they had any issues with this launch.
It's possible that Apple is lying as well, but I know right now my company is waiting for 30-40 more iPhones that we had pre-ordered, I'm not sure why Apple would make us wait if they had supply, especially since we develop some their most profitable iOS apps.

Agreed. I'm constantly disappointed by the zest with which people berate Apple. It's incredible. It's like religion, as you said...I'm an atheist, but the last thing I do is troll all the theists out there...I don't take pleasure in it. I come to this forum as an enthusiast -- someone who enjoys technology. I enjoy all technology, and every tech announcement excites me, even if it's not a product I will use personally. I love seeing the progression of things, and I would like to assume that everyone else does, too. But it seems to me that there are a large number of people on OCN that don't come here because they are tech enthusiasts, but rather because they are militantly opposed to Apple and take pleasure in putting them down, to the chagrin of others like myself.

Slightly unrelated but still want to say, Apple's patent trolling is absolutely not a reason to hate them, because every other company is doing it, too, so it's either hate them all or don't hate.
Edited by flamingoyster - 9/24/12 at 3:38pm
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post #54 of 65
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This is strange. I'm not really surprised, but I was wrong. I knew it would either sell very well (around 6.5mill) or very poorly (3 mill). However, it fell right between that. I cant really tell if that makes it a success or failure. Of course, either way, 5 mill is an insane number, but still. The iPhone4 sold 1.7 million in the first 3 days, and the 4S sold 4 million, so it does mean their baseline went up. However, it still fits in the realm of reality. Most people who bought the 4S went from an iPhone1/3g/3gs, NOT an iphone4. If we apply the same logic, then you can essentially explain ALL of these sales via upgrades (first series + 4 + 4s) .
i like how everyone in this thread is glad apple failed to meet a REALLY, REALLY big number and sold only a REALLY big number of phones in their first three days. these people smell blood in the water and are instigating over why apple is only selling 528 craptons instead of 852 craptons of phones
post #55 of 65
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Originally Posted by JonnyBigBoss View Post

Explain this to me. I am yet to see a phone that can replicate the fluidity of the iPhone's screen, or the phone's reliability. You haters are holding yourselves back.
How do you see reliability? it is not something you can see...
post #56 of 65
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

Definitely not one of Apple's best moments. They still had a very good weekend, but if they're not going up anymore... the fall of the empire.

Uhm. Yeah Okay.

I work for Bell Canada and at our store location (population 58'000) we have a waiting list of 129 people. We got SIX phones in on launch day.
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Took 4-5 years? how does that even make sense? Are you using IOS 1.0? No I don't think.
iOs has been fluid as it is today, since it was conceived 5 years ago. Android has only just now gotten smooth, whereas even the first iPhone/iPod touches were smooth as silk.

Download an app on a Jelly Bean device and let it auto-locate an icon to a homescreen, then watch the massive stuttering effect as it struggles to handle this new several-hundred pixel icon. Does it on both my dads Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus 7. Things like this just never happen in iOS.
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Did you read the article? Apple sold out of their entire stock, which means the only reason they didn't sell more in the first three days was because they ran out.
What part of "sold out" don't you understand? If more people had moved to other devices it would have been easier for them to not sell out their stock of phones.
The iPhone sold in three days, 5 million, half of what the Galaxy S3 sold in two months...

I can walk into Walmart, Bestbuy, or Futureshop and walk out with an iPhone 5.


Honestly, I expected demand to be higher too. When the 4S launched it was much harder to find.


I think the problem is its still basically the same phone. I've seen people at the display look at it, pull out their 4/4S, and decide that spending $200-$300 for nothing more than an extra row of icons just isn't worth it.
    
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Did you read the article? Apple sold out of their entire stock, which means the only reason they didn't sell more in the first three days was because they ran out.
What part of "sold out" don't you understand? If more people had moved to other devices it would have been easier for them to not sell out their stock of phones.
The iPhone sold in three days, 5 million, half of what the Galaxy S3 sold in two months...

I can walk into Walmart, Bestbuy, or Futureshop and walk out with an iPhone 5.


Honestly, I expected demand to be higher too. When the 4S launched it was much harder to find.


I think the problem is its still basically the same phone. I've seen people at the display look at it, pull out their 4/4S, and decide that spending $200-$300 for nothing more than an extra row of icons just isn't worth it.

Maybe it's a regional thing, here we're now on a 2-3 week waiting list, and we ordered about 30 of them only hours after the midnight pre-order started. We tried the Apple store, AT&T and Verizon stores, nothing. Not sure about Walmart, but it's for a business so I'm not sure what channels they have to go through to get them.

On the outside, in many ways the phone is very similar, if people are making their decisions to buy a phone based solely on the outside look of it, those people aren't likely to upgrade. Apple is in an interesting situation, where either they can't think of where to go next with the looks of the iPhone, or where they feel it doesn't really need much improvement, and that changing the look for the sake of changing it would be the wrong way to go. Personally I'm torn, I'm not sure where exactly smartphone technology will go next, sure things will get faster, battery life my improve, small features may get added here and there, things like NFC, but what is the next big change for smartphones that will really make people want to upgrade?
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Maybe it's a regional thing, here we're now on a 2-3 week waiting list, and we ordered about 30 of them only hours after the midnight pre-order started. We tried the Apple store, AT&T and Verizon stores, nothing. Not sure about Walmart, but it's for a business so I'm not sure what channels they have to go through to get them.
On the outside, in many ways the phone is very similar, if people are making their decisions to buy a phone based solely on the outside look of it, those people aren't likely to upgrade. Apple is in an interesting situation, where either they can't think of where to go next with the looks of the iPhone, or where they feel it doesn't really need much improvement, and that changing the look for the sake of changing it would be the wrong way to go. Personally I'm torn, I'm not sure where exactly smartphone technology will go next, sure things will get faster, battery life my improve, small features may get added here and there, things like NFC, but what is the next big change for smartphones that will really make people want to upgrade?


The screen should have been considerably larger. While matching the S3 or One X's large screens would be a little overboard, had it been 4.2 or 4.3" sales would have been higher. They've made the phone technically larger, but it doesn't look that way. It literally just looks like an elongated iPhone 4, since the width is the same, and looks like a child's toy next to similarly priced Android phones. Its even dwarfed by the Galaxy S, which has the same diagonal but is noticeably wider.

And now that the display densities and technologies on Android phones have pretty much caught up Apple is being hamstrung by basic math. You can view more (nearly 50%) on a 4.7-4.8" 1280x720 display than you can on a 4" 1136x640 display.
    
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