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post #31 of 39
9/25/12 at 8:56am
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That isn't true... The reason these will not be used for everyday computing is because of the process of putting the information on the chips themselves. You don't see overclockers changing the architecture on a silicon chip just for that extra gh. Trust me, with what we see on this site, if it were possible, people would be doing it. The silicon chips in our computers don't cost much... but putting the micro-architecture on them is extremely tough.
If this thing can handle 1000C for a couple of hours, how do you think a common, everyday computer is going to be putting the holes on the inside of the chip?
Now, I understand if google (or any other companies) wanted to back up code for their servers on something like this, but that isn't MASS information. They wouldn't save everyday information on them... Well, knowing google, they might, but just because they would own the tech. to do so.
I am pretty sure, at least at the moment, it is read-only.

What are you talking about? I'm talking about it's use as durable permanent recovery media for use in business applications, not personal media. A durable solution for disaster recovery would be hugely prized in the data retention and recovery markets.
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9/25/12 at 11:56am
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What are you talking about? I'm talking about it's use as durable permanent recovery media for use in business applications, not personal media. A durable solution for disaster recovery would be hugely prized in the data retention and recovery markets.

Well, according to your first post, it seemed like you were arguing against people's statements such as "I don't understand the point? We don't need data that last for ages." Seemed more like you were trying to say that this form of back up 'HDD' would be used commonly.

I live in South Carolina, we do experience a lot of flash flooding (happened 3 or 4 weeks ago) and hurricanes, so, on a company level, yes, this would save a lot of troubles, I agree with you completely. (only very large companies would have the resources tho) I was just saying that this wouldn't be a common solution. Just a misunderstanding.
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9/26/12 at 9:55am
So a company would either have to send the data out to have it backed up or have one of the machines that can put the data in this form. Seems even more expensive.
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post #34 of 39
9/26/12 at 10:40am
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Its not that digital media is more durable, but a lot of data is redundantly saved, so the chances of everything failing at once is basically zero, which makes this a useless development. A lot of data is also backed up on multiple servers (I.E. dropbox), and each of those servers have redundancies in case another server fails. Same idea with raid to protect your data. The only thing that could wipe out serious amounts of data would be a world ending disaster like an asteroid. If were all dead anyways, what good does saving our information do?

Do you even know what the point of this is? Is to save data for a long period of time. Hard drives fail within 10 years, you would need to create whole lot of hard drives to be able to preserve data through thousands of years, when you could just have one of these hold data.

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so the chances of everything failing at once is basically zero

Sigh, who said they will fail at once? rolleyes.gif again the whole point of this is to store data for a long time with very harsh conditions.
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post #35 of 39
9/27/12 at 8:28am
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So a company would either have to send the data out to have it backed up or have one of the machines that can put the data in this form. Seems even more expensive.

Large firms already send their data out for storage on tape. These data retention companys can offer an extra service for very long term storage.
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9/27/12 at 8:44am
I'm interested at how this may work as a redundant storage array on a spaceship so that in the event of a galactic particle event, where the unprotected systems suffer a fault that is nearly undetectable but could be catastrophic to the mission, this then would serve as a parity drive of sorts.
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9/27/12 at 8:49am
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Those people don't like to party... Just act like gangsters and kill each other! Bad idea!

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9/27/12 at 8:50am
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I'm interested at how this may work as a redundant storage array on a spaceship so that in the event of a galactic particle event, where the unprotected systems suffer a fault that is nearly undetectable but could be catastrophic to the mission, this then would serve as a parity drive of sorts.

It wouldn't be a parity drive... it would be a back up image since I don't think this is easily writable.
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9/28/12 at 6:12am
between this and topographic data imagery coding, you'd have TBs of data in an obscure lens
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