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I recently picked up a GTX560SE to offload the PhysX from my GTX580 in Borderlands 2. I chose the 560SE because of its low cost; I gambled on the fact that it would be more than powerful enough for purely PhysX processing. All important information regarding the setup is as follows:

Software:

Used Fraps to record a run of approximately 4 minutes; taken in Frostburn Canyon from the entrance of the zone to the beginning of the cave located down and to the right from the entrance. Same weapon and similar strategy used to maintain a similar run graphically (note that during the second run, less time was spent in combat and may have acted in favor of the average framerate.)

All graphics settings EXCLUDING DoF are at max at 1080p; framerate uncapped for benchmarking.

Hardware:

2600k at stock clocks with Turbo Boost enabled.
GTX580 is a Superclocked edition at stock SC clocks. It was in a PCIe2.0 x16 slot as confirmed by GPU-Z.
GTX560SE is well, an SE edition at stock clocks. It was in a PCIe2.0 x4 slot as confirmed by GPU-Z.

Benchmarks:

First Run (GTX580 w/ GTX560SE PhysX)

Borderlands2
Frames: 21538 - Time: 273423ms - Avg: 78.772 - Min: 51 - Max: 165

GTX580 ~ 99% Usage
GTX560 ~ 55% Usage

Second Run (GTX580 Only)

Borderlands2
Frames: 17156 - Time: 240788ms - Avg: 71.249 - Min: 41 - Max: 144

GTX580 ~ 99% Usage
GTX560 - 0% Usage

Third Run (GTX580 w/2600k PhysX)

Borderlands2
Frames: 14331 - Time: 268462ms - Avg: 53.382 - Min: 20 - Max: 139

GTX580 ~ 50% Usage
GTX560 - 0% Usage

Conclusion:

Quantitatively, there is a gain to using the 560 for PhysX. Average framerate improved by approximately 7 fps while min/max increased by 10/20 respectively.

From a subjective standpoint when using only the 580, stuttering was apparent when PhysX was enabled; the cause to me is unknown, I've read that it is merely an optimization issue. When offloading to the 560, the stuttering was completely eliminated. The quantitative gains were most likely unnoticeable. The reduced stuttering was where I noticed the most enjoyable gains; the increase in fluidity was incredible; unfortunately this is non-quantitative so I have no proof of this stuttering mumbo-jumbo.

Whether the gains were worth $140 is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I am pleased and I consider it worth it in my case.


CPU Benches Added:

I have added benchmarks for CPU PhysX. Compared to a dedicated card, I lost 25 average, and approximately 30/30 for min/max framerates. The run was the least intensive yet as I spent more time dying than I did in combat. I will mention that during combat nearing the end of the run, I spent most of my time close to the minimum framerate.

Long story short, avoid CPU PhysX, the results speak for themselves.
Edited by MightEMatt - 2/12/13 at 4:57pm
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Can I ask what did you use to benchmark it?
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I just used the Fraps Benchmark tool. All it does is record what I posted; the average, min/max, total time and frames. I played for approximately 4 minutes in a specific area. I know it's not the best benchmarking tool in the world, but its the most quantitative way I could think of to benchmark BL2 performance ingame.

The area I chose (Frostburn Canyon) was a personal choice because I've noticed that it seems to be one of the more graphically intensive areas; regular dips into the 40s and even 30s when in 4 player games. Lots of reflections/ice, water, torches, lots of enemies.
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haha same thing I use then, I picked up a gt 640 for 20 bucks on ebay last night coming tomorrow wonder if its going to be a good physx card:thumb:
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Well for $20 bucks it'd be hard to be disappointed. I took a quick look at the Geforce website because I'm unfamiliar with the 640, and the only thing that would raise alarms with me would be the continued use of DDR3 VRAM on it and the low bandwidth. But on the other hand I've read somewhere that PhysX is more reliant on the number of Cuda cores (hearsay, I'm not promoting this as fact) and the 640 has more than the 560SE so you could be in for a sweet surprise. But like I said, for $20 bucks, hard to go wrong.

Keep me updated when you get the card, I'd be interested to see how it works for PhysX.
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haha same thing I use then, I picked up a gt 640 for 20 bucks on ebay last night coming tomorrow wonder if its going to be a good physx card:thumb:

For 20 bucks the card is well worth buying even if you weren't going to use it all. It should be pretty decent as a physx card. I still have tried my 670 and 460 combo with and without physx. I might give it a shot when I go home but I have to study for a data structures test I have coming up.
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So far, my 250 is holding up just fine (for Physx). I can post numbers later, but with everything on, 1080p through my 560 ti, I get 60~ fps. That is, however, in single player.

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So far, my 250 is holding up just fine (for Physx). I can post numbers later, but with everything on, 1080p through my 560 ti, I get 60~ fps. That is, however, in single player.
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Yep a 250 is right around the sweet spot for physx but I wouldn't go lower (with a powerful primary card). A lot of people say 260 or higher just to be on the safe side.
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Yep a 250 is right around the sweet spot for physx but I wouldn't go lower (with a powerful primary card). A lot of people say 260 or higher just to be on the safe side.

Yeah, that's what I thought, but some folks insist on higher. Sure, higher would be better, but I see no need; not even in BAC; although that game does run my 250 harder than it does the 560, lol.

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I have added benchmarks for CPU PhysX. Results are in the original post.
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