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It's an admission of guilt. They knew it was a fairly widespread issue and still sold the product.
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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

THE IPHONE 5 IS MADE OF ANODIZED ALUMINUM A.K.A A SOFT METAL! ANODIZING IS THE PROCESS OF PUTTING AN OXIDE LAYER ON TOP OF METAL. THIS LAYER IS THIN AND ALUMINUM IS SOFT!


That out of the way, Aluminum is a soft metal by nature, so by dropping it on the ground or hitting it it with other hard objects will cause the metal to deform, scratch and chip.  The reason why the last iphone didn't chip (or if it did, you didn't notice it) was because there was no coatiing on the aluminum. Additionally, glass doesn't scratch as easily as metal. 

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It fits with the apple motto of, you're doing it wrong. tongue.gif
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where is steelbom?

Let me guess, you knew this when you bought it? You should realize nothing is indestructible? Just buy a case and you will be fine? Those are ALL beside the point.
    
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It's an admission of guilt. They knew it was a fairly widespread issue and still sold the product.

IT IS ALUMINUM! i tell you what, take an aluminum ball and anodize it. Then drop it on concrete a few times. IT IS NORMAL FOR IT TO SCRATCH AND CHIP. Take a piece of aluminum wire and bend it over and over again. It will break rather quickly. Now take a coat hanger (made of iron) and do the same thing. it will bend back and forth a LOT before breaking. it is just what it does. I expected this from reading about it. The ipads chip all the time, but because it is all the same color, it goes unnoticed by most people. Same for Macbook Pros and whatnot. 

 

This is not a design flaw or an oversight. Anodized aluminum just shows all its dents, nicks, chips, and scratches much easier. 

 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

IT IS ALUMINUM! i tell you what, take an aluminum ball and anodize it. Then drop it on concrete a few times. IT IS NORMAL FOR IT TO SCRATCH AND CHIP. Take a piece of aluminum wire and bend it over and over again. It will break rather quickly. Now take a coat hanger (made of iron) and do the same thing. it will bend back and forth a LOT before breaking. it is just what it does. I expected this from reading about it. The ipads chip all the time, but because it is all the same color, it goes unnoticed by most people. Same for Macbook Pros and whatnot. 

This is not a design flaw or an oversight. Anodized aluminum just shows all its dents, nicks, chips, and scratches much easier. 

This is correct, now apple it to apple.

So you agree that the iphone 5 is a major step back in terms of durability? I mean I've used an iphone 4 for 2 years with no protection and it is immaculate. I've dropped it on a treadmill around 8x only to have to shoot off and into the wall behind me. The glass is more durable than people make it out to be. Drunks drop their phone on concrete then complain the glass broke.

Not impressed with the iphone 5

ALSO
Many anodizing companies (that is companies who offer anodizing services) will tell you it is a VERY durable surface in general. Most anodized parts utilize a harder aluminum than the iphone 5, and with the anodized surface become even harder. The iphone 5 is just using the wrong material for such a high wear device. How many times do you pick up and set down a phone? How many times do you put it into your pocket? A GOOD design would make normal wear and tear almost invisible (aka iphone 4)
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IT IS ALUMINUM! i tell you what, take an aluminum ball and anodize it. Then drop it on concrete a few times. IT IS NORMAL FOR IT TO SCRATCH AND CHIP. Take a piece of aluminum wire and bend it over and over again. It will break rather quickly. Now take a coat hanger (made of iron) and do the same thing. it will bend back and forth a LOT before breaking. it is just what it does. I expected this from reading about it. The ipads chip all the time, but because it is all the same color, it goes unnoticed by most people. Same for Macbook Pros and whatnot. 

This is not a design flaw or an oversight. Anodized aluminum just shows all its dents, nicks, chips, and scratches much easier. 


Looks like a definitive design flaw to me. Hmm, out of all the materials at the disposal of our engineers, we choose the one that dents, nicks, chips and scratches much easier? Oversight, or doh.gif decision? Does it matter, end result is what it is.
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Scratch tests show that the back of the iphone 5 is far less durable than the iphone 4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSFKVq36Hgc

Yo, glass is much, MUCH, MUCH more resistant to scratching than metal. On top of that, it was Gorilla Glass.

Vicks Hardness of Aluminum - 167 MPa

Gorilla Glass - 622 to 701 MPa

HMMM... Bigger number. Oh wiat, that is right, it is MUCH harder. Harder material is HARDER to scratch. 

 

The entire back and frame of the iPhone 5 is made of aluminum, not glass. BIG difference. Your statement has been rendered void. 

 
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Looks like a definitive design flaw to me. Hmm, out of all the materials at the disposal of our engineers, we choose the one that dents, nicks, chips and scratches much easier? Oversight, or doh.gif decision? Does it matter, end result is what it is.

You are right, the result is what the result is.....and the result is normal. Don't like Apple's choice of building material? Start building your own phone, buy a case, or get a different phone. Apple or any other company can't be held accountable for lack of research or knowledge by their customers....
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Yo, glass is much, MUCH, MUCH more resistant to scratching than metal. On top of that, it was Gorilla Glass.
Vicks Hardness of Aluminum - 167 MPa
Gorilla Glass - 622 to 701 MPa

HMMM... Bigger number. Oh wiat, that is right, it is MUCH harder. Harder material is HARDER to scratch. 


The entire back and frame of the iPhone 5 is made of aluminum, not glass. BIG difference. Your statement has been rendered void. 

Lord Xeb, you shut up with your logic! That has no place in this universe....back in the cage!

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You are right, the result is what the result is.....and the result is normal. Don't like Apple's choice of building material? Start building your own phone, buy a case, or get a different phone. Apple or any other company can't be held accountable for lack of research or knowledge by their customers....


Like I said, Apple to yall: You're doing it wrong!
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