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My temps with everything stock, no overclocking was hitting 70 Celcius while doing tasks so I had to do something. It could have been bad thermal paste but I figured I might as well get the Hyper 212+. Just installed it with Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste and just ran Prime 95 blend test for about 10 minutes. The temps were high 50's, around 55-58. Except one core was around 59-61 C.

is that good? Everything is stock, i5-2500k no overclock. now that I have an air cooler some some sort, I thinking of overclocking it a little bit but want to make sure that these baseline temps are still okay before I do that. Just want to make sure this purchase was worth the money.

Btw, idle temps are around 40-44 C
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Well your load temps are fine, but your idle temps are about 15C higher than they should be.

Run prime 95 again but this time run it using Small FFTs
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My temps with everything stock, no overclocking was hitting 70 Celcius while doing tasks so I had to do something. It could have been bad thermal paste but I figured I might as well get the Hyper 212+. Just installed it with Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste and just ran Prime 95 blend test for about 10 minutes. The temps were high 50's, around 55-58. Except one core was around 59-61 C.
is that good? Everything is stock, i5-2500k no overclock. now that I have an air cooler some some sort, I thinking of overclocking it a little bit but want to make sure that these baseline temps are still okay before I do that. Just want to make sure this purchase was worth the money.
Btw, idle temps are around 40-44 C

 

These load temps are higher than what they should be for being at stock.  They should at least be in the very low 50s.  Did you put paste in between the exposed heatpipes?

 

Here's what I mean:  http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

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Well your load temps are fine, but your idle temps are about 15C higher than they should be.
Run prime 95 again but this time run it using Small FFTs

Really? Idle should be around 30 C? Damn that would be awesome.

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These load temps are higher than what they should be for being at stock.  They should at least be in the very low 50s.  Did you put paste in between the exposed heatpipes?

Here's what I mean:  http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

I didn't put paste in between the heatpipes. Was I supposed to? I just followed a video on Newegg's youtube channel. Could that account for the higher temps? I did move the heatsink around when I snapped the fan on it but not by much.

I'm using Coretemp and I can't tell which core to look at since it shows temps for all 4 cores. Right now as I'm typing with not much running, the lowest core is 34-36 C and the highest is 38-40 C actually.

I reran Prime95 with Small FFTs and the temps were about the same. It was around 54-59, with one of the cores being around 59-61 C.

I also read about "Break in" period from Arctic Silver's website. Says about 200 hours as temps should steadily go down. Not sure if that's a factor. I literally installed the new heatsink and fan and thermal paste an hour ago.
Edited by kettlecorn - 9/25/12 at 6:37pm
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Really? Idle should be around 30 C? Damn that would be awesome.
I didn't put paste in between the heatpipes. Was I supposed to? I just followed a video on Newegg's youtube channel. Could that account for the higher temps? I did move the heatsink around when I snapped the fan on it but not by much.

 

Yep, putting paste in between the pipes on HDT heatsinks is the way it is supposed to be done (it's a part of the process that can't be skipped).

 

So, it is looking like you have to go ahead and do this or else you may not be able to overclock.

 

 

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I'm using Coretemp and I can't tell which core to look at since it shows temps for all 4 cores. Right now as I'm typing with not much running, the lowest core is 34-36 C and the highest is 38-40 C actually.

 

Ok.

 

 

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I reran Prime95 with Small FFTs and the temps were about the same. It was around 54-59, with one of the cores being around 59-61 C.

 

This is normal for Sandy Bridge.  The Blend test will always be the best anyway.

 

The only CPUs I know of that get higher temps with the Small FFTs test are CPUs that don't have an Integrated Memory Controller, such as Intel's Core2 series.  The Core2 series always got higher temps with the Small FFTs test as opposed to the Blend test because the Blend test doesn't stress the whole CPU while the Small FFTs does.  However, now that the Memory Controller is on the CPU, the Blend test gets the temps up just as high as the Small FFTs test.

 

 

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I also read about "Break in" period from Arctic Silver's website. Says about 200 hours as temps should steadily go down. Not sure if that's a factor. I literally installed the new heatsink and fan and thermal paste an hour ago.

 

It might be a small factor, but the fact remains that there's no paste in between the heatpipes.  So this is like installing a normal flat base heatsink and cutting grooves into the base and not filling those grooves with paste;  it reduces the efficiency of the heatsink's heat dissipation because less of the heatsink is now being used.  So, when you put paste in between the pipes before going ahead and applying the rest of the thermal paste, you take full advantage of the heatsink.  In other words, I don't see that you have any choice if you want good enough temps for overclocking.


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Yeah I would think your temps would be a little lower. My 2600 (non-K) hits about 53C for the max temp using push/pull sickleflow fans. I think it idles right above room temperture. My first pasteing got me 65C for the load so if you can I would try reapplying the thermal paste.
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Yep, putting paste in between the pipes on HDT heatsinks is the way it is supposed to be done (it's a part of the process that can't be skipped).

So, it is looking like you have to go ahead and do this or else you may not be able to overclock.



Ok.



This is normal for Sandy Bridge.  The Blend test will always be the best anyway.

The only CPUs I know of that get higher temps with the Small FFTs test are CPUs that don't have an Integrated Memory Controller, such as Intel's Core2 series.  The Core2 series always got higher temps with the Small FFTs test as opposed to the Blend test because the Blend test doesn't stress the whole CPU while the Small FFTs does.  However, now that the Memory Controller is on the CPU, the Blend test gets the temps up just as high as the Small FFTs test.



It might be a small factor, but the fact remains that there's no paste in between the heatpipes.  So this is like installing a normal flat base heatsink and cutting grooves into the base and not filling those grooves with paste;  it reduces the efficiency of the heatsink's heat dissipation because less of the heatsink is now being used.  So, when you put paste in between the pipes before going ahead and applying the rest of the thermal paste, you take full advantage of the heatsink.  In other words, I don't see that you have any choice if you want good enough temps for overclocking.

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Yeah I would think your temps would be a little lower. My 2600 (non-K) hits about 53C for the max temp using push/pull sickleflow fans. I think it idles right above room temperture. My first pasteing got me 65C for the load so if you can I would try reapplying the thermal paste.

Thanks, I'm going to reapply it then. Sucks cause it's kind of a ***** to do it but I'm sending in my defective ram so when that comes back, I'll reapply then. I have to move the heatsink to fit the last ram into the slot anyway.

The way I applied the thermal paste, I only applied on the CPU and smoothed it out evenly. I didn't put it on the heatsink side cause I thought it'd be too much but I guess I need to fill those grooves. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll give it a go.
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Thanks, I'm going to reapply it then. Sucks cause it's kind of a ***** to do it but I'm sending in my defective ram so when that comes back, I'll reapply then. I have to move the heatsink to fit the last ram into the slot anyway.
The way I applied the thermal paste, I only applied on the CPU and smoothed it out evenly. I didn't put it on the heatsink side cause I thought it'd be too much but I guess I need to fill those grooves. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll give it a go.

The way I would do it would be to spread it across the CPU like you did. When you take it off scrape as much off as you can but do not remove any from the inner channels that are formed in the base and copper fins. Then do single bead in the middle of the CPU and press the cooler on, twist a little to the left and a little to the right and secure the heatsink. That should net you the best temperatures.
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I don't know about that.  See the third method down on this page:

 

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

 

All 3 of these are after manually putting thermal paste in between the pipes.

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I don't know about that.  See the third method down on this page:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

All 3 of these are after manually putting thermal paste in between the pipes.

I'm just going off what worked for me. I think the most important thing is getting some thermal paste in the grooves. I did use Prolimatech PK-1 so it is less gooey than Arctic Silver, might have made a difference.
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