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Hey overclock.net!

Ive been a long time reader but this is my first post and i hope that you can help me!

I just recently ordered the parts for my new pc and i want to watercool it. I love the asthetics of watercooling as well as the overclocking and temperature potential. I will be cooling my cpu (i7 3770k) and my gpu's (2 4g 670 superclocked edition of evga). I will also be overclocking both of these as far as i can and still be stable for day to day use. From what i can figure i estimate around 550-600 watts that i will need to dissipate. This is a high estimate but i figured 150 for cpu and around 400-450 for the video cards. I have been looking at different radiators and i want to go with a 360 and a 240 as they both will fit internally in my Switch 810. My budget for all of this is around $600-750. So basically what im trying to figure out is:

1.What radiators? I like the Ex360 and 240 as they are low profile and i like the look of them in the switch from the pictures i have seen. However if there are better choices for the money let me know. I also like the fact that i can get either of these is a kit which would give me a pump and res.

2. I need fans, so which ones? My color scheme for this build is black and white so i want the fans to match if possible. I have looked at the spectre pro ones but i dont know if they will be powerfull enough for those rads. I also thought about ap-15s in pull on the top 360 and push on the bottom 240. This way they would be out of sight and the gray wont show. If i do this will it be ok?

Sorry for the long post but i firgued i would get it all out there at once!

Thanks for looking and helping out!
post #2 of 6
There are a lot of watercooled build on the forum. Here's one of my favorites, it's long but worth it. http://www.overclock.net/t/1217947/the-switch-transition-from-the-corsair-600t-to-the-nzxt-switch-810 Also I would recommend staying away from the spectre pros. From my experience with them they are horrible radiator fans.
post #3 of 6
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Thanks for the reply! Thats to bad about the spectres!! I really liked the way those looked. What do you think about the gelid fans? I have heard they are decent and at a pretty good price point. Also do you think that im going to be able to push my video cards that much higher from watercooling than air? I have been looking online and there isnt a huge difference in my opinion exspecially not enough to justify spending another 300+ on blocks and another rad. Who knows? Let me know!

Thanks Again,
Xt4c33
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A 360 plus a 240 can handle 2 GPUs and a CPU, but I'd use full thickness rads instead of low profile unless you don't mind loud fans. The Black Ice SR1 is 54mm instead of 60, which should give you just enough clearance for push/pull in the top of the 810 (sweet case by the way thumb.gif).

I can't help you much with the fans; I'm running akasa vipers and it sounds like yellow's not your taste. Be aware that you won't really be able to see any of the fans on the top rad, and the bottom 2 fans on the bottom rad.
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Yeah I thought about not seeing those fans. If I went with the gentle typhoons in pull top rad and push in the bottom one leaving no visible fans on the inside would that be enough cooling?
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If you don't mind drilling 8 holes in the top of the case for the middle and rear fan mounts, I would definitely recommend going with an EX420 or Alphacool NeXXos XT45 420 radiator: more surface areatthan a 480 rad but not as long, and both rads are slim enough to fit in push pull without much hassle while providing excellent thermal dissipation capabilities, and both rads scale incredibly well with fan speed. I have the EX420 in push pull and it fits wonderfully.
For the bottom, I really can't think of a single better radiator than the Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240, which will fit push pull with up to 38mm thick fans. The Monsta rads will dissipate more heat but they are huge, rendering one of the two intake fans completely useless (and case airflow is absolutely important regardless of whether you cool primarily with air or with water).
Combined, you should be able to cool the CPU and both GPUs extremely well. Going by the "1x120mm of rad space per block + 1 extra" rule, you essentially have an entire 240 rad of headroom.

The best 140mm rad fans, in my opinion (and Airdeano agrees), are the Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm fans which have 103cfm and 3.5mmHg static pressure, for just $9-11 each (and they are dual ball bearing motors). They move a serious amount of air and I don't find them loud at all, but they do undervolt extremely well.
For the 120mm fans, I personally absolutely love the Koolance 120x25mm or 120x38mm 2600rpm fans which provide a significant amount of pressure at 5.4mmHg / 6.4mmHg respectively, and 107.4cfm / 118cfm. They are also dual ball bearings AND they are not loud to my ears despite the high spee , and I have 4 in push pull on a UT60 240. Best part is the $8 cost, and they also undervolt extremely well. Probably the absolute best performance per dollar fans out there.

In terms of pumps, I can't recommend anything but the MCP35X as it is the most powerful pump you can get in terms of "consumer level" water pumps, comes with the best top already installed, and is PWM controlled. $80 to $85 makes it a relative steal IMO. Just be sure to spend the $12 on the heatsink, which will lower the temp of the pump PCB by 35-45C depending on airflow (it can have an 80x15mm fan mounted directly to it). The D5 pump adds 30W of heat to the loop, and the MCP35X doesn't.

In terms of CPU blocks, I would personally stick with either the Apogee HD or Raystorm, as both are extremely strong performers. The Apogee HD has more modularity and the absolute best mounting system available, while the Raystorm is noticeably less restrictive.
For GPU Blocks, the Heatkiller blocks are works of art and perhaps the best performing models available. They have their own (IMO beautiful) stainless steel backplates available, but also work perfectly well with the EVGA backplates.

I hope this helps some. I spent many months researching water cooling parts, and I couldn't be happier with the above. The combination is absolutely amazing.
   
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LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
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Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
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