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I am about to pull the trigger on a FT03-mini build soon and would like to make sure it will all work out in practice as well as it sounds in theory.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/i6Zg

I really like the miniature tower form factor, and the ST03 is actually available, unlike the case from the Tiki and X51. So I am looking for advice on the overall build specific to small form factor systems. How do I improve thermals, is there a way to sound damp this case, am I overlooking good alternatives? Open to any and all advice, but I picked most parts for a reason so please state why you would make any changes, if any.

(I will put the full build here in pictures after ordering it as a thank you biggrin.gif)
Edited by Din65 - 9/26/12 at 1:11am
post #2 of 14
Several people complained about the noise from the gold-modular SFX power supply. If this might bother you, get the bronze version instead. Cables are exactly same length and composition, so no advantage to the gold version being modular unless you are crimping your own custom length cables.

Also interesting choice of the graphics card. Is that the PNY XLR8? Do you own this already? If not, consider a EVGA GTX670 with reference blower fan (faster, better, less power consumption, runs cooler, cheaper) and then take a Antec 620 or Corsair H60 for the CPU.

Oh, and it's FT03-mini biggrin.gif
Edited by WiSK - 9/26/12 at 12:58am
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Several people complained about the noise from the gold-modular SFX power supply. If this might bother you, get the bronze version instead. Cables are exactly same length and composition, so no advantage to the gold version being modular unless you are crimping your own custom length cables.
Also interesting choice of the graphics card. Is that the PNY XLR8? Do you own this already? If not, consider a EVGA GTX670 with reference blower fan (faster, better, less power consumption, runs cooler, cheaper) and then take a Antec 620 or Corsair H60 for the CPU.
Oh, and it's FT03-mini biggrin.gif

Is there any way to damp the sound? I am under the impression the gold rating is worth it since I will be running on the high end of the capacity. The exact card is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133398, so it is an XLR8 with a closed gpu/cpu loop. It seems almost made for this layout. Furthermore Fermi shows better math performance than Kepler, so it will work better for my mixed needs (CFD simulations very soon). However, if the 670 is cooler anyway I would be interested, since both the radiator and card itself would shrink. And yes, I made a typo. Fixed now.
Edited by Din65 - 9/26/12 at 1:30am
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Yes, then in general 580 would probably be better, but difficult to advise about simulation performance depending on exactly which software you are using.
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It just occured to me: PNY XLR8 is too long.
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Size 270mm long, double-slot
Hope you haven't ordered yet.
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It just occured to me: PNY XLR8 is too long.
Hope you haven't ordered yet.

I've heard conflicting reports. At least one person claims to have fit a 580 in this case. I'm trying to get pictures before purchasing however.
post #7 of 14
I have an SG05 on which the FT03-mini frame is based. The measurement from expansion slot opening to front plate is 262mm. The FT03-mini additionally has a place where the clip of the fan filter connects which could further limit the maximum GPU length, maybe even as much as 12mm. Either way, if the XLR8 is 270mm long then you won't fit it without some significant modding. I would recommend looking at alternative GPUs which will work well with your modelling software.
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what is your definition of a "workstation" most machines classified as "workstation class" machine require double precision math which requires professional vid cards or at the very least the performance of a 7970 instead of the gtx680. 680 is a good card, just not for double precision math.

also. other consideration for workstation class machine is a board that supports ECC memory (which you wont find in an ITX form factor)

so... the question you should ask is what exactly do you need this machine to do?
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also. other consideration for workstation class machine is a board that supports ECC memory (which you wont find in an ITX form factor)

Intel does. tongue.gif

Specs

-Proving Psyclum wrong this week [✓]
I'll stop now. redface.gif

About the GPU length. Based on this review, the card itself is based on a reference GTX 580 board.

That said, this thread proves that people were unable to fit a GTX 580 inside the SG05 without modding. Silverstone says that the FT03-Mini can only support up to 10"

No matter what way you slice it, the 580 isn't going to fit.
     
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post #10 of 14
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Okay, so where would I go to get a custom case made? I can CAD it up no issues, but no time nor tools to produce it. Also would need to be a reasonable budget (<$300, lower is better). Mostly for curiosity, I think I will just switch to a 660 ti and call it a day at this point, as sad as that makes me.
Edited by Din65 - 9/27/12 at 8:30am
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