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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Actually the APU is a great paring with it, as the system can run a hybrid-crossfire between the Trinity GPU and the 7970M. By going this route you are going to see better gaming performance at a lower cost than what you could get with an Intel processor. The A10 is not going to bottleneck the 7970M, or any mobile GPU, at 1080P, give AMD more credit than that.

Proof?
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post #12 of 92
A10-4600M is like a Phenom II 550 on dual-thread (being generous), and a Phenom II 910e~920 on multi-threaded. AMD 7970M is similar to a desktop 7850 in performance. I'm not saying it's gonna bottleneck but I'd put money on a 2.4ghz i3 with same GPU beating it in games that only use 1-2 cores, and stomping it in Skyrim.

But we shall see. Benches don't lie. Going with an APU cuts ~$200 off the price vs. an i7 quad, but then again, i5 cuts about $150 from the cost and has better overall performance than an A10. Realistically I think AMD would need to subsidize the prices by ~$100 to make it competitive.
 
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post #13 of 92
I could be wrong but the battery savings will probably come in that this platform will allow the use of the integrated GPU whereas dedicated AMD cards with intel processors haven't typically worked well or at all when it comes to using the on-board gpu for non-intensive stuff.
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post #14 of 92
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That's $1350 USD

But Europe usually gets a price hike compared to US, I don't think it will be that much ...maybe $1200. MSI has barebones too, so I think it might be offered on xoticpc that way as well.
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Proof?

i7 + 7970m = 3dm11 score of 5876

A10 + 7970m = 3dm11 score of 4684


There will likely be a few games that the 7970m won't do as well paired with the A10 compared to it paired with a 3610QM.
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post #15 of 92
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proof.gif
Personal Computer still sucks alot of power compared to ARM
also, i woudn't say Trinity is amazing at power consumption as Sandy bridge lower/equal while performance is significantly better
dont even think about comparing it to Ivy bridge...


That and C2Duo performance levels, ouch.
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A mobile A10 and a 7970M? wth.gif totally off combination. The A10 is too weak for a 7970M.
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Actually the APU is a great paring with it, as the system can run a hybrid-crossfire between the Trinity GPU and the 7970M. By going this route you are going to see better gaming performance at a lower cost than what you could get with an Intel processor. The A10 is not going to bottleneck the 7970M, or any mobile GPU, at 1080P, give AMD more credit than that.
You can't crossfire GCN and VLIW4.
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post #17 of 92
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But Europe usually gets a price hike compared to US, I don't think it will be that much ...maybe $1200. MSI has barebones too, so I think it might be offered on xoticpc that way as well.
i7 + 7970m = 3dm11 score of 5876
A10 + 7970m = 3dm11 score of 4684
There will likely be a few games that the 7970m won't do as well paired with the A10 compared to it paired with a 3610QM.

What in the actual hell... This is like the 3rd time in recent times. Do people even look at quotes anymore?
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post #18 of 92
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A mobile A10 and a 7970M? wth.gif totally off combination. The A10 is too weak for a 7970M.
You can't crossfire GCN and VLIW4.

At 1080P the A10 will be fine.

You can't crossfire but you can use the APU's very nice integrated GPU for great video playback and light to medium gaming, while saving you battery power. Then when you want to stretch your legs, the 7970m goes to work. And again, at 1080p AMD's "good enough" CPU's really are just that, "good enough".

Basically the same perceived performance while costing less and having great battery life? Sign me up.
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post #19 of 92
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At 1080P the A10 will be fine.
You can't crossfire but you can use the APU's very nice integrated GPU for great video playback and light to medium gaming, while saving you battery power. Then when you want to stretch your legs, the 7970m goes to work. And again, at 1080p AMD's "good enough" CPU's really are just that, "good enough".
Basically the same perceived performance while costing less and having great battery life? Sign me up.

Just use IBs "good-enough" iGPU for the same task and use even less power.
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Nothing wrong with C2D performance. A C2D can still run the vast majority of game well, and many great. I can say this as I have one with 2xGTX460's. To this day I still max out most games and slightly tune it down for a few at 1920x1080. Only game to give me issues is Crysis 2 and well we all know how horribly optimized that game is and that hidden details drag system performance down.

I am not arguing that an i5 or i3 would be a better choice with that graphics card or not, just saying that the A10 should be fine to handle most games at a good FPS.
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